[QUOTE] [QUOTE] test drive it before buying it next time.[/QUOTE] Can none of you buggers read? It's the discourtesy car. [QUOTE] and astras are a pile of shite, in 2 years the ceiling felt[1] will all be falling down and it'll look like it was made in the 1980s. and i don't mean knight rider.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE] tbh you don't need to see where the end of the bonnet is, though.[/QUOTE] I do when getting onto the drive. Everything else I've driven I've had a sense of where the car was - the astra seems immune to spatial awareness.[/QUOTE] <delurks> Land Rover Defender, square, easy, YKIMS <dl>