OT : Paging those with distance learning experience (OU)

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by dwb, Jun 1, 2006.

  1. dwb

    dwb Guest

    Last year I contemplated doing an OU degree course, but decided against
    it.

    Contemplating it again this year with a bit more intent and also
    because what I want to do doesn't seem to require me to attend sessions
    with other people unless I want to (yay).

    My question is though, how realistic/possible is to do the courses
    whilst still maintaining (hopefully) a full time day job and a
    semblance of a social life?

    The course I'm looking at is a 360point one, theoretically over 4 years
    as they don't recommend doing 120pts a year as this is equivalent to
    full time study (apparently) - however I'd like to do it 3 if possible.
    So it looks like it's going to be rather hard work - for quite a long
    time - is this the case?

    I'm not going to say what I'm looking to study but it would be fairly
    involved (ie not a BA(Open)) so any comments from those who've
    undertaken 60pt (or even better 2x 60pt) courses in a year would be
    appreciated

    Ta.
     
    dwb, Jun 1, 2006
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    Ace Guest

    I did some OU stuff a few years back, but I found the post-grad stuff
    much more suited to my taste and experience. I was doing ( and
    completed 3/8 of) the post-grad diploma "Computing in Commerce and
    Industry" which had some really interesting courses available.

    Advantages to this included:
    It converts, with a suitable project, to an MSc, with no need for a
    bachelors degree (which I don't have) first.
    It's aimed at people who've been in the business for some years, so
    doesn't treat you like an idiot.
    It needed eight credits; some of the courses (like the first one I did
    "Software Engineering") are double credits, so you can do the whole
    thing in a couple of years if you'e up for it. either by doing that or
    just taking two at a time.
    Each if the courses comes with its own certificate, entitled
    "Post-graduate..." so I now have some post-grad qualifications despite
    no first degree.
    Credits last for ten years, so I could still go back to it if I
    wanted.

    As for the workload, well the double-credit one is probably equivalent
    to a BA 60 pointer, and I found with a lot of train travelling I
    wasn't spending _too_ much of my life doing it. YMMV

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    darsy Guest

    what sort of course, and why?
     
    darsy, Jun 1, 2006
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  4. dwb

    dwb Guest

    I'd tell you but I'm feeling sensitive today and wouldn't like the rude
    remarks.

    Why? Because I never intended to do IT as a career - it was a stop gap
    until I decided what I wanted to do - unfortunately I got comfortable
    but would like to now sort that out before I become too old to get a
    job after (assuming) I complete the various bits of it.
     
    dwb, Jun 1, 2006
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  5. dwb

    Spete Guest

    <Quote>

    I'm not going to say what I'm looking to study but it would be fairly
    involved (ie not a BA(Open)) so any comments from those who've
    undertaken 60pt (or even better 2x 60pt) courses in a year would be
    appreciated

    </Quote>
     
    Spete, Jun 1, 2006
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  6. dwb

    Spete Guest

    So either hairdressing or proctology then?

    :)
     
    Spete, Jun 1, 2006
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  7. dwb

    dwb Guest

    It's not actually :)

    That said, hair dressing, if you're any good at it, is one of those
    things that pays absolute shed loads and is transportable anywhere
    round the world - it's listed on Australia's "key job list" for
    instance!

    I can't stand cutting hair though so it's not something I'd really
    consider doing.
     
    dwb, Jun 1, 2006
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  8. dwb

    Dan White Guest

    120pts a year is the standard at a full time Uni course. I don't know how
    the OU works in relation to deadlines for modules though, so it might be
    less of a slog if you can do work over the summer break. I wouldn't
    recommend it in addition to a full time job if you want *any* semblance of a
    social life (unless you are happy with a 2:2 equivalent grade).

    Is there any chance of getting APEL'ed (Accreditation for Prior Experiential
    Learning)? Basically, if you can demonstrate knowledge and/or working
    experience in any of the modules you intend to take, you can apply to get
    prior accredition for them. In other words, you get the points without doing
    the module! However, without knowing what you currently do, and what you're
    intending to do, it's difficult to speculate.
     
    Dan White, Jun 1, 2006
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  9. dwb

    darsy Guest

    Fair enough - I wasn't looking for specifics (hence the "what sort" in
    my post, rather than "which"). I was just wondering if you were
    looking for something related to your current career or not. Because,
    if it was related, I was going to advise you not to waste your time.
    this answers my question.
     
    darsy, Jun 1, 2006
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  10. dwb

    Elly Guest

    I have utmost respect for anyone undertaking and completing an OU
    course ... it's hard work.
    Don't knock interaction with tutors/other students. I found that a
    real downside to the OU course I did in 1998 (60 point level one
    course - S103 Discovering Science). I often felt very isolated and
    found it frustrating trying to get feedback, assitance or support with
    problems or queries. Of course that may have changed now with greater
    access to IM, web-boards etc.

    I've just finished my second year of a full-time BSc and have found
    that the support from both lecturers and fellow stoooods has been
    invaluable. Just being able to stick your head round your lecturer's
    door when you have a query makes such a difference.
    It's possible, but as the course progresses expect to have less and
    less of a life. Like it or not it *will* become all-consuming,
    especially if you are aiming to get a good degree at the end of it.
    Pip, Loz and the kids will breathe a huge sigh of relief when I
    graduate next year as I frequently put them through hell whilst I'm
    working on assignments.
    A full-time job and 120 points do not mix easily. My full-time course
    demands 120 points a year and I struggle to fit it in with a couple of
    part-time jobs, childcare and looking after a house. With the OU you
    have to remember that whilst you don't have to attend lectures, you do
    have to find the time watch the programmes, read around your subject,
    carry out practical exercises if the course requires them and complete
    your assignments. It's a lot of work.
    When I did my 60 point course I found it really difficult to find the
    time even though I wasn't working (I was looking after my then 2 year
    old son). Looking back I feel that this was a failing on my part as
    my motivation and time management could have been better. That aside,
    I did pass with a reasonable grade.

    Basically, if you feel that you can make the commitment then go for
    it. It won't be easy and at times you'll wonder why you're bothering
    but believe me it's worth it.

    Go for it and good luck.

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    Elly, Jun 1, 2006
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  11. dwb

    dwb Guest

    Oh sure - doing an IT related degree wouldn't help me at all - if I
    were to do anything IT related at the moment I'd do some more
    certifications or the like. Doing a degree would just be 4 years of
    pissing time and money away IMO as not only would everything have
    changed in the mean time it probably still wouldn't change/help getting
    a better job.
     
    dwb, Jun 1, 2006
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  12. dwb

    darsy Guest

    have you been fucking your way through all the gullible young freshers
    Wessie-style?
     
    darsy, Jun 1, 2006
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  13. dwb

    Elly Guest

    I couldn't possibly comment :)

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    Elly, Jun 1, 2006
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  14. dwb

    dwb Guest

    Yeah, I was being slightly tongue-in-cheek.
    Yes, this is one thing I'm slightly concerned about.
    Okay - thanks for that.
    Ta.
     
    dwb, Jun 1, 2006
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  15. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, dwb
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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 1, 2006
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  16. I never wanted to be a hairdresser anyway!
    I want to be a lumberjack !
    Leaping from.... never mind.
     
    Bryan.Williams, Jun 1, 2006
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  17. dwb

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  18. dwb

    dwb Guest

    Yup. Back in the days when I had my bouffant.
     
    dwb, Jun 1, 2006
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  19. dwb

    Spete Guest

    Whaaaaa?

    So, are you saying I've wasted my money?
     
    Spete, Jun 1, 2006
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  20. I did these courses a few years ago:

    Software Design and Implementation in Turbo Pascal (M860) Computer
    Architecture and Operating Systems (M861) Relational Database Systems
    (M866)
    User Interface Design and Development (M867)
    Software Development for Networked Applications Using Java (M874)

    You can do 2 a year no problem, but I can't remember if those courses
    were 30 or 60 point. I did it via the usual lazy initial burst of
    enthusiasm followed by apathy and panic before coursework deadlines or
    exams. I didn't find it particularly time consuming, probably each
    course took me around 10-15 hours in total including coursework and
    exams.
     
    mike. buckley, Jun 1, 2006
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