OT Merging Word Documents

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by sweller, Nov 12, 2006.

  1. sweller

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Not exactly *recommended* in my first post which pointed to a page which
    also gave a link to Monkey Merge. In fact I had a look at both in demo
    form as I thought I might fnd something similar useful.

    My second post specifically pointed to Monkey Merge, which I have
    actually acquired a licence for.

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  2. sweller

    Ace Guest

    Well, sort of, and yes, in that order. It's 'open' in that it's a
    publicly available and published format, yes, but it's effetively a MS
    standard, so they could change it if they wanterd to. Thankfully, it's
    remained unchanged for at leat six years tha I know of.
    It's either true or it's not, shirley?
    Ahh, _really_ open, yes. RTF doesn't have as many manipulation tools
    generally available, although there's a complete suite for SAS, wot I
    wrote, out there somewhere. But it does allow an almost infinite
    degree of formatting. I've not played so much with XML documents, but
    I've a sneaky suspicion that there are things it's not very good at,
    when it comes down to the fine detail of table formats.

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  3. sweller

    darsy Guest

    yeah - I didn't see that originally.
     
    darsy, Nov 13, 2006
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  4. sweller

    Pete Fisher Guest

    XML - "It's the way of the future", as Howard Hughes might have said if
    he was around now.

    I really must make more effort to get my head round the concept.
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  5. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Genius.
     
    sweller, Nov 13, 2006
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  6. sweller

    darsy Guest

    oh sure, that works, but you need not to care about the formatting too
    much (or not have documents with too much formatting in them in the
    first place)
     
    darsy, Nov 13, 2006
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  7. sweller

    Krusty Guest

    I like to think so. If you think that's good, wait til you see my plan
    for making a cat-flap out of old razor blades. Revolutionary it is.

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  8. sweller

    Ben Guest

    XML - "It's a way of making your data even bigger"
     
    Ben, Nov 13, 2006
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  9. sweller

    Christofire Guest

    You got mail, and a macro.
     
    Christofire, Nov 13, 2006
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  10. sweller

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Simple is best. Hat off to Krusty.

    TBF, if all the documents are to the same format (as is likely to be the
    case in sweller's scenario) it ought to do the job perfectly.

    I just tried it on a mixed bag of simple 'letter' type documents and it
    was OK.

    Still think the merge options (breaks), filter options (file pattern,
    date etc,) and the 'favourite' facility in Monkey Merge are worth the 10
    quid.

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  11. sweller

    Pete Fisher Guest

    We aren't using ICL ME29s anymore though are we.

    Got to go the XML way if into E-government (IMHO).
    Convergence and interoperability innit.

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  12. sweller

    Ben Guest

    No, but we still need to move data around in efficient ways. XML is
    great but it is not the great panacea that a lot of people think it
    is.
    I never want to go anywhere near e-GIF again if I have to.
     
    Ben, Nov 13, 2006
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  13. sweller

    simonk Guest

    Decide the order in which you want your documents to appear in the
    master document.

    Save all your documents as RTF files - to avoid confusion it might be
    easier to call them a.rtf, b.rtf, c.rtf, etc.

    Open up the first file using notepad. You'll see a load of computery
    nonsense. Go to the end of the file, and delete the last curly bracket
    } . Save the document

    Open up the last document using notepad. Delete everything up to, but
    not including, the second curly bracket { - probably something like
    {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\uc1\deff0\stshfdbch0\stshfloch0\stshfhich0\stshfbi0\deflang1033\deflangfe1033

    Open up all the other documents, and do both of the above tasks for
    each.

    At the DOS prompt, type copy a.rtf+b.rtf+c.rtf output.rtf

    Open up output.rtf .

    Realise that, while this works a treat, it might have been quicker
    opening up all the documents and using copy/paste, but that this was
    infinitely more satisfying.

    Geeks would have this done in a flash with their text-editing weapon of
    choice, but I suspect you're not armed with sed or Crimson Editor
     
    simonk, Nov 13, 2006
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  14. sweller

    Ace Guest

    Indeed, it can contain anything you want it to. Oddly enough I do
    actually know a bit about XML too ;-)

    But you misunderstand my point - for XML to have the universal
    functionality of RTF would require a universal standard for all types
    of formatting requirement. I'm not aware that such a standard exists
    and even if it does it's certainly not univerally accepted and
    implemented. I can't do a 'Save as XML' from Word, for instance.

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    Ace, Nov 13, 2006
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  15. sweller

    Ace Guest

    <checks>

    No, my desktop's still on 2002. There's an outstanding update which
    I'll get on the laptop tomorrow, as it's currently being rebuilt.

    I'll certainly be interested to look into it, as we currently have a
    number of documents which need to be updated on unix as well as
    windows, and rtf is the only satisfactory way I've found of doing this
    up until now. But I'd be very (pleasantly) surprised if it supported,
    by default, all the types of formatting I can think of.

    Specifically, things like a table with varying height and width cells,
    each of which may contain mutiple text items, formatted within the
    cell, in different fonts, colours etc. This wasn't easy to achieve
    programatically in RTF, although I got there in the end, so if XML can
    do it all, it might be of some interest...
    errr, whooosh.

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    Ace, Nov 13, 2006
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  16. sweller

    Ben Guest

    You're lucky. I've come across an awful lot of people who want to use
    it for absolutely everything within applications.
     
    Ben, Nov 13, 2006
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  17. sweller

    sweller Guest

    I'm dealing with very basic briefing notes, all based on the same
    template. Works well for my purposes.
     
    sweller, Nov 13, 2006
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  18. sweller

    darsy Guest

    job done then - yay for ukrm.
     
    darsy, Nov 14, 2006
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    I wonder why?

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  20. sweller

    Catman Guest

    Quite the reverse. I am now paying someone else to do the leg work
    while I go and do something far more interesting
    Well, my company is a smidge different in that I never really regarded
    myself as a consultant, but we offered a service to many companies.
    Thing is, most small companies want to pay as little as possible and
    expect the world in return. Oh well.




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