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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Lady Nina, May 13, 2008.

  1. Lady Nina

    Hog Guest

    I rather thought he would do a mean G&T, for those wickedly self
    indulgent enough in this world.
     
    Hog, May 16, 2008
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  2. Lady Nina

    Krusty Guest

    There are numerous references out there to the fact that viruses can't
    reproduce if the body temp goes over about 101 degrees.

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    Krusty, May 16, 2008
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  3. Lady Nina

    ginge Guest

    Centigrade?

    Well, it's a fix of sorts.
     
    ginge, May 16, 2008
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    Stake! Special delivery - one stake!

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    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, May 16, 2008
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  5. Lady Nina

    frag Guest

    Do you think the body can "know" if whatever its infected with will be
    one of the ones that die at slightly higher temperatures?

    I'm at a complete loss to explain it but sometimes when I'm ill I'll
    dig out elec blanket, etc, and its worked 100% of the time upto now.
    Sometimes I don't.

    Maybe something in me hinting that heat would help?
     
    frag, May 17, 2008
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  6. Lady Nina

    frag Guest

    So it seems like most old wives tales, there's some truth in it.

    And how you doing anyway?
     
    frag, May 17, 2008
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  7. Lady Nina

    Ace Guest

    No. Fever is not an attempt at self-healing, but a result of the
    toxins produced by whatever bugs are at work upsetting the body's
    ability to regulate temperature. Whatever limited truth there may be
    in the idea that some bacteria may find a raised temperature harder to
    survive is entirely coincidental.

    And as has been pointed out, cold and flu are viral infections, not
    bacterial - we've[1] been deveoping anti-viral drugs for quite a few
    years now and believe me, if there was something as simple as raising
    temperature to kill viruses, we'd have done it long ago.
    I suspect you're overcomplicating matters. If you have a higher
    temperature you'll often feel cold and shivery - it's natural to want
    to stay warm in such circumstances. You then feel better because
    you've been lying there doing nothing while the body does its thing,
    rather than using up valuable energy trying to do stuff.

    And do be careful - significantly raised temperatures are very
    dangerous to the body, which is why 100% of doctors would prescribe
    ant-pyrhitics in the event of fever. LN may 'know' better, but it's
    her funeral.


    [1] Not me personally, you understand, but 'we' as in people who do
    the bits of the job that create the data for me to do my bits of the
    job, sorta thing.
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    Ace, May 18, 2008
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  8. Lady Nina

    Higgins Guest

    Evolutionary, I would have thought.
     
    Higgins, May 18, 2008
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  9. Lady Nina

    Ace Guest

    Would you?

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    Ace, May 18, 2008
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  10. Lady Nina

    Higgins Guest

    Yes, wouldn't you?
     
    Higgins, May 18, 2008
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  11. Lady Nina

    Ace Guest

    Well clearly not. It's not exactly in a bacteria's evolutionary favour
    to raise its host's temperature to levels it can't survive in.

    And anyway, it must be emphasised that this situation is absolutely
    _not_ the norm, and that a high body temperature should always be
    treated.

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    Ace, May 18, 2008
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  12. Lady Nina

    Higgins Guest

    Fair point, but surely it's in the host's interest to raise the
    temperature to a degree[1] if it proves to be effective?
    We tend to take a more pragmatic view and don't worry too much if temps
    are only slightly raised, though we tend to be more cautious if the
    sprogs have high temps.

    [1]Pardon the pun.
     
    Higgins, May 18, 2008
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  13. Lady Nina

    frag Guest

    Ace scribbled:
    No, thats not what I was implying.

    You know the way some preggers women crave odd things but have no idea
    why? (and I'm not talking about DYTIUTA here).

    I can see why that is, human body is a complex chemical system
    regulated by some part of brain that isn't our conciousness, when it
    needs something badly it prompts concious part of brain, woman eats
    coal.

    Whats not to say that the same thing can't learn "ooh, when I'm hot,
    virus/bugs don't last so long, heat + virus/bugs = good".

    Completely unprovable (by me anyway), but I like the idea :)
    No, the coldness/shivers can be exactly the same. Just sometimes I
    think "heat is good" and other times I don't. And no, its not
    Alzheimer's!
    I know its dangerous. If I get too warm I wake up + turn it off.
    Ah, the royal 'we' then? The gold-plated-taps 'we'?
     
    frag, May 20, 2008
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