OT leaving home

Had a chat with them both tonight, earlier than expected.

She's a fucking idiot is what she is. No job, expects to manage on
'money from her nan'. Grrrr.

I have major bonus points for not shouting at the pair of them.
Foolish children. Grrr.

 

Economists have been writing plenty of books about that - of course the
overall result is a slow deskilling of the workforce, but at least
everybody saved money while doing that.

Long-term views don't do anything for the quarterly results, so no. Even
before going EKS I did spend a lot of my own money for training, be it
buying hard & software or going to conferences. Actually my last two
employers paid the conference fee, but I had to cough up for the flights
and accommodation. But at the end of the day, banks do usually have an
education budget for their staff and encourage you to use it.

 

That made Oi larf that did.

and that.

 

It's long and complicated, I'll catch you on msn.

I rock.

 

My God there's a lot if it about - I'm struggling to persuade my youngest
(10 year old) that while getting straight As in the academic subjects is
good, getting "Must try harder" in the learning skills of his report is less
stellar and will lead to problems for him down the road - one day, life
won't be easy, the grades won't come on a plate and he'll suffer a similar
fate to his Dad (and others here from the look of it).

 

I disagree. He just needs to look a bit more South, if that's an
option. Areas such as Oxfordshire & Berkshire are teeming with firms
(and not 'IT' firms as such, but ones where IT is peripheral to their
main activity - look at automotive engineering for example) that need
programmers at all levels.

This is true. All people new to the industry should have to do some
crap for a couple of years - I know I did.

heh. This is also true.

 

Or at least initially.. And certainly don't plough lots of time and
money into getting lots of bits of paper qualifications what will just
end up as very very expensive loo paper.

This all assumes that he wants to work for a big company. There are
still lots and lots of mid and small sized companies that don't use
outsourcing and still lots of opportunities for people to do
programming/support et. al.

Just don't specialise too early or spend too much time chasing the
current buzzword.

IT is by no means the worst thing to do as a career as long as you
don't let it consume you.

Phil.

 

*Ding*

Small and mid sized organisations will generally not want to outsource
(especially towards the smaller end).

Phil.

 

i like that in people.

 

yeah, like that'll work.

 

Fortunately, there are plenty of others who will.

 

Been there, done that, still coasting at 30 and doing just fine!

 

AOL.

 

I bought a one pound block of that back once, and completely forgot
about it. That shit never goes off.

**** that.

 

Name and shame!

 

Well Christophire for one

 

really? I suspect you and Oggers might be the same as me - you do
actually "do the work", but you enjoy it so it doesn't actually seem
like "work". A large part of my "work" is networking (in the social
sense) and schmoosing and finessing people to get them to do what
suits me - this is something I find highly enjoyable.

 

I'm not sure, having spoken about this before. Spending >75% of one's
'working' time on non-work stuff, while still delivering enough in the
small amount of time you can actually be arsed to do it to satisfy the
bosses that you're doing a good job is, I think, what Champ was
alluding to.

Sounds dreadful. I hate 'networking'.

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oh right - I do that as well.

Each to their own.

 

AOL.