OT leaving home

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Lady Nina, Jun 23, 2007.

  1. Suitable exam passes triggered the process for me. One day life was in
    Newcastle and then words from a teacher meant I was headed to London.

    I did my own flat hunting over a very long day down in London and struck
    lucky at the very last place I visited. And yes it was in Walthamstow.
    Dad and I moved me down to London by train so I didn't have a huge
    amount of possessions at that time. I recall walking up Walthamstow
    Market that very first Saturday as clear as anything - I thought I'd
    stumbled on to the Eastenders set.

    I guess I was reasonably well house trained and could do all the
    necessary chores - partly because home life was such that if I didn't do
    it it didn't get done. Money was very tight but then we had silly things
    called grants in those days and a got a small amount of money each week
    from my Mum. I worked every holiday for four years (sandwich course) and
    was never overdrawn until the end of my degree. Not sure if that's
    possible these days but then I didn't live in the Union bar. I
    maintained a very detailed record of expenditure and budgets and coupled
    with my determination I think that's why I didn't have budgetary issues.
    I think I'd recommend having a decent but relatively inaccessible
    contingency fund these days - particularly given the cost of
    accommodation and deposits and some bills. This is until some form of
    good payment track record has been established.

    I deliberately did not go home for a weekend visit for about 2½ months
    which I think was the right thing to do because it forced to make a life
    with a routine in London. I knew a few people so I was not without
    friends and I think that's pretty important at that age (18) and being a
    bit wet behind the ears. I did feel homesick when the train pulled
    across the King Edward Bridge back to London after my first weekend
    visit back to Newcastle (Nov 83 IIRC). I never took my laundry home to
    be washed either!

    I was initially in digs so lived with a young couple and this meant I
    had to clean up and wash up so that established a domestic routine.
    After a year I was back in Newcastle for 7 months doing the first bit of
    my sandwich course then back to London in houses shared with friends.
    That had it's good and bad moments - no surprise there then. It got
    harder when I was later working and shared a house with people who were
    still students. To say there was a clash of priorities was an
    understatement - I resented having to clean up after them when they'd
    done nothing all day and I'd been at work.

    Can't think of anything that I know now that I wished I'd known then.
    Nothing really went wrong and even if it had then the whole point is
    that you learn how to deal with it rather than running back home.

    Given your remarks in another post in the thread I would be careful
    about being too clingy with your son. You obviously love him a great
    deal but you must be able to cut the apron strings. My Mum didn't do
    that and it made it almost impossible to go back home because I knew
    what emotional pressure there would be and to be frank I just didn't
    need it as I had my own life by then.
     
    Paul Corfield, Jun 23, 2007
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  2. Lady Nina

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:59:42 +0100, Paul Corfield

    snip>
    I can remember my mother getting tearful at Heathrow when I went
    though departures as I departed on my 'big adventure'.

    I came home for a holiday after a year and when I flew back she was
    told she couldn't come to the airport because she was an
    embarrassment. Luckily for her I was talked out of it (she either came
    along and I got a lift or I used public transport) and she had the
    opportunity to make sure I really was going and it wasn't some kind of
    a sick joke.

    I reckon I had maybe 10 separate days in the first year when I wasn't
    convinced I'd been entirely sensible in leaving the country but decent
    wages soon persuaded me that going back to an early eighties England
    wouldn't be a good idea.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jun 23, 2007
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  3. Lady Nina

    Paul - xxx Guest

    Mum and dad were constantly arguing, so I simply left one Saturday evening
    and stayed with a mate and his family for a fortnight or so (We were both
    about 19) before my name came up and I got a council flat almost straight
    away. Stayed there for a couple of years, during which it was revealed that
    dad had been a right bastard, seeing women etc and had decided to go to one
    of them. 'cept he didn't just go, he came home, went again, cam home, went
    again etc. Which all put mum in the psychiatric ward, electric shock
    treatment and such-like (1978 ish) So I went to mums house again to look
    after her. Stayed until about 1984 when I left to go to Nottingham and
    Trent Poly ... ;)

    The rest is a bit tangled ...
     
    Paul - xxx, Jun 23, 2007
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  4. I was kicked out at about 16. I'd been living at home whilst not
    attending the college I was supposed to. Making some cash in the local
    pub and spending it in the local pub. Mates called me at the pub
    before they tried my mobile of home phone.

    That night I kipped on a friends sofa, and the same the following
    night by which time I had found a fifty quid a week room to rent. I
    borrowed the first 250 from my dad and then set about to get a job.
    within 2 days I'd lined up a role washing up in a cafe - it was grim,
    but it paid for the roof over my head.
    I grew up very, very fast. Ensured that I paid the rent on time and
    anything else was game on.
    Credit cards are to be steered clear of. To expect unexpected bills.
    Friends that you party with don't necessarily make the best
    housemates.
    A friend, and that didn't work out for too long, so I found a random
    "room to rent" in the local paper, that was close to work so I could
    walk.

    It was the best thing my Mum could have done for me, and set me up for
    the rest of my life to date, despite never completing college, A
    levels or Uni. I have a good job, earn decent money, house, car,
    bikes, toys, woman, get to travel etc. I've never looked back and have
    no regrets about it - only the heartache I must have caused to trigger
    that day.
     
    DoetNietComputeren, Jun 23, 2007
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  5. Lady Nina

    ginge Guest

    Lady Nina wrote:

    [moving out]
    I could heat things up, and operate a toaster. To be honest that's all
    the skill somebody in their teens or early 20's needs, sitting down to a
    proper meal isn't high on the list of priorities.
     
    ginge, Jun 23, 2007
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  6. Lady Nina

    ginge Guest

    I always liked that there's a Clowne College. It's like a step up from
    clown school.
     
    ginge, Jun 23, 2007
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  7. Lady Nina

    Christofire Guest

    Not only that, but a number of large employers won't look at you unless
    you have a certain standard in both your degree and a-levels.
     
    Christofire, Jun 23, 2007
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  8. Never mind all that shit, he has volunteered, help him pack his bags and
    kick him out now before he changes his mind.

    And if it is any help I was taken away from hearth and home by a burd
    with what others considered an unreasonably healthy sexual appetite.
     
    steve auvache, Jun 23, 2007
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  9. Lady Nina

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Surely properly cooked meals are what families and restaurants are
    for?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jun 23, 2007
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  10. Lady Nina

    ginge Guest

    Well, yes.

    I seem to recall bags of rice, tinned chilli, bacon, and cheap white
    bread were pretty much my staple diet for the first 18 months.
     
    ginge, Jun 23, 2007
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    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jun 23, 2007
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  12. Lady Nina

    Doki Guest

    I've certainly heard of big corporates wanting a certain number of UCAS
    points for graduate programmes - I did General Studies which generally
    required no studying and bumps things up, should I want to work for a bunch
    of lizards. OTOH, a hell of a lot of people aren't especially interested in
    anything other than what you got for your degree.
     
    Doki, Jun 23, 2007
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  13. Lady Nina

    deadmail Guest

    Impulsive, at the age of 17. Moved out, dropped out of crammer college,
    got kicked out of my job, ran out of money, got kicked out of flat.
    Moved back. All within the space of about 9 months.

    What I wish I'd known?

    1. Cooking's a fucking pain.
    2. Landlords get pissed off when you rebuild a motorcycle engine in the
    kitchen (for some strange reason).
    3. Clothing doesn't wash itself.
    4. Food costs money!
    5. Electricity and Gas costs money.
    6. Don't encourage friends to crash because whilst it's fun having a
    party every night when you find that your bedroom is engaged (so you
    can't crash), that your food has been eaten and your booze has been
    drunk it's not so fine and dandy.
    7. Some of the 'friends' will end up squatting in your flat, or at least
    that's how it will feel.
     
    deadmail, Jun 23, 2007
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  14. Lady Nina

    deadmail Guest

    This rings an alarm bell. It's what I did with the greatest of
    intentions but the instinct to 'party' was too strong. I ended up
    dropping out of my A Levels and then studying part time from the age of
    25 to 32 to make up for my lack of A levels/degree. *not* recommended.
    Absolutely.
     
    deadmail, Jun 23, 2007
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  15. Lady Nina

    Lady Nina Guest

    On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:13:51 +0100, Andy Bonwick
    I think (because we still haven't fully discussed it yet) that it's
    moving in with his g/f and a couple of mates.
    Or mine, you just exchange one set of parental units for another.
    You lost a footnote.
    She's at her dad's atm so doesn't know anything about it. Given she's
    spent the last year telling him he can move out now he's 16 I bet
    she'll be over joyed and changing the locks.
     
    Lady Nina, Jun 23, 2007
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  16. Lady Nina

    Lady Nina Guest

    He's a lazy sod, coasting on his intelligence and not doing the work.
    I know he has to work this out for himself.
    Pretty much what I did, I didn't go straight to uni.
    So did I.
    Agreed. I should stop worrying.
     
    Lady Nina, Jun 23, 2007
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  17. Lady Nina

    Lady Nina Guest

    Send the lads round to have a word...
    *ding* **** knows where this maternal stuff has appeared from, I
    should just kick him out and let him get on with it :)
     
    Lady Nina, Jun 23, 2007
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  18. Lady Nina

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I was going to suggest that I don't think he's shagging his mates
    mother but his sister isn't so certain.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jun 23, 2007
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  19. Lady Nina

    Lady Nina Guest

    Yes, If there have been any disasters I've not heard about them and
    the two of them have an open invite to come back here if it all goes
    pear shaped.
    But, but I'm going to rent the room out 5 minutes after he goes...

    snip
    Realising there isn't a washing fairy may be a shock.

    Check the label in your clothes, it usually has age range.
    This is good. So, are there any naked pictures of you on the internet?
    He's doing cold calling on the phone for his part time job and I
    remind him that if he fucks up his exams then he'll be stuck doing
    this or similar for years <evil grin>
     
    Lady Nina, Jun 23, 2007
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  20. Lady Nina

    Hog Guest

    Well as I typed it I was thinking you aren't really the Mum sort ;o)
     
    Hog, Jun 23, 2007
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