[QUOTE] I think everyone is guilty to some degree of doing the same thing. People pay more attention tho when a uniform officer is doing the same thing. JC[/QUOTE] Yeah, I've seen the difference.... I go frequently to local bars but, I don't drink. I go to visit/play with various band members that I know. When I leave, usually at close, I'm never stopped at that time of the morning. Conversely, back in the 70's, the LEO's would be in waiting for the bar closers. I also recently sat on my local grand jury. You can see it real well, all the various drug, alcohol, weapons, etc. charges are generated from stops for burned out taillight, lane change w/o signal, low tire, etc. as the excuse for probable cause.