{OT} Help - fuggin puters

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Preston Kemp, Nov 23, 2004.

  1. Preston Kemp

    Preston Kemp Guest

    Decided to give my pc an early Xmas so bought an Athlon XP 2200 to
    stick in it (previously had a 1000). The motherboard's a Jetway V266B,
    which can support up to 2600 with the latest bios according to the
    website.

    So I flashed the bios, set the FSB jumper to 133, & the multiplier to
    12.5 which is the highest it goes. I believe the XP 2200 actual speed
    is 1800, so the multiplier should be 13.5, but assumed either the cpu's
    locked (can't see the L1 bridge well enough to tell), or the bios would
    sort it out.

    Anyway, it powers up ok, but that's all. No beeps or anything, but it
    won't kick the screen into life. I've tried various other multiplier
    settings with both 100 & 133 FSB but no joy. It all works fine if I
    stick the old cpu back in.

    Any suggestions? DOA CPU maybe? One confusing thing is on the jetway
    website, it lists two different bios .bins for this board depending
    which page you look at. One of them's definitely for the VIA 266
    chipset, which is the one I used. The other .bin is for a different VIA
    chipset. I could try that, but I'm worried it'll toast the bios chip.
     
    Preston Kemp, Nov 23, 2004
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  2. Have you tried putting the old CPU back in and seeing if it works?

    Has your monitor taken an early retirement?

    Have you got a graphics card that may have come loose?

    Have you got the monitor plugged in!
     
    Whinging Courier, Nov 23, 2004
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  3. Preston Kemp

    Preston Kemp Guest

    Try reading para 2 again :)
    And again...
    And again...
    ....
     
    Preston Kemp, Nov 23, 2004
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  4. Preston Kemp

    Mikey Guest

    Memory speed. You probably need faster memory now you have changed
    the FSB frequency.

    Mikey
     
    Mikey, Nov 23, 2004
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  5. Preston Kemp

    Catman Guest

    Sounds like it to me TBH.

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    Catman, Nov 23, 2004
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  6. You were a bit quick there, matey.

    Only after I sent it did I read your post properly and cancel mine but
    ohhh no! you were just too fast, dammit.
     
    Whinging Courier, Nov 23, 2004
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  7. Preston Kemp

    Preston Kemp Guest

    It's PC133 memory, & I've got the memory speed set to 133 in the bios
    anyway (it's a separate setting), so I don't think that's it. Ta anyway.
     
    Preston Kemp, Nov 23, 2004
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  8. Preston Kemp

    Preston Kemp Guest

    In that case, I think I'll take it down the local friendly puter shop &
    get it tested. You seem to be the man in the know about these things.
     
    Preston Kemp, Nov 23, 2004
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    Mike Guest

    Sounds like not enough juice to me. If it still works with the
    old cpu as you've said, then the new one should work at the lower
    clock setting. Also, if the MoBo bios has a voltage setting, try
    hiking that up a tad to test at full speed. If it works, make
    sure you have plenty of cooling going on.
    Try running the new cpu with the bios setting to "auto" or
    "failsafe" or at the old cpu setting. If it still won't work,
    it's prolly b0rked. The bios upgrade sounds ok to me.
     
    Mike, Nov 23, 2004
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  10. Preston Kemp

    Preston Kemp Guest

    Good point, that's the one thing I haven't tried yet.
    I got a new copper base cooler with the chip, which makes the old chip
    run 16 degrees cooler than it used to!
    I tried auto-detect, both manual settings (100 & 133 FSB), & clearing
    the bios using the MB jumper - no joy.
     
    Preston Kemp, Nov 23, 2004
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  11. Preston Kemp

    Catman Guest

    I'm flattered. Let us know what the final score is.
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    Catman, Nov 23, 2004
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  12. Preston Kemp

    Intet Navn Guest

    What he says! *Points at Mike*

    Had the exact same problem: new motherboard, CPU, memory etc. in old cabinet
    with old power-supply - and the bloody thing refused to start at all. New
    'jucier' power-supply sorted problem completely and everything worked
    perfectly.


    /Claus
     
    Intet Navn, Nov 23, 2004
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  13. Preston Kemp

    Preston Kemp Guest

    It was dead. Very, very dead. Hopefully Ebuyer live up to their
    reputation when it comes to dishing out RMA numbers.
     
    Preston Kemp, Nov 23, 2004
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  14. Preston Kemp

    Preston Kemp Guest

    It was DOA. The power supply's a 350W Enermax which should be able to
    cope (I hope!).
     
    Preston Kemp, Nov 23, 2004
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  15. Preston Kemp

    Catman Guest

    I've never had an issue with RMA from them. Takes a day or so though.

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    Catman, Nov 23, 2004
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  16. Preston Kemp

    TMack Guest

    SNIP!

    probably a bad bios flash - you may have flashed the wrong bios file, the
    bios file may be corrupt, the flash may have gone wrong or the bios chip may
    have failed. (I presume you did a 'clear cmos' to reset it to defaults
    before attempting to boot. You may also find that removing the power lead
    and the cmos battery for 10 mins before attempting a boot will revive it.)
    Unless the bios chip itself has failed It should also be possible to reflash
    the bios from a bootable floppy (this will be 'blind' as the motherboard
    will not be able to initialise the graphics card) - google for details.
    Alternatively it may be possible to "hot flash" the bios chip if you can
    access a motherboard with the same kind of bios chip - google for details.

    Tony
     
    TMack, Nov 23, 2004
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  17. Preston Kemp

    Catman Guest


    LOL. Propagation not good on that server?

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    Catman, Nov 23, 2004
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  18. Preston Kemp

    Preston Kemp Guest

    <snip>

    Would you like a reply now, or shall I give you a few minutes to cancel
    your post? ;-p
     
    Preston Kemp, Nov 23, 2004
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  19. Preston Kemp

    TMack Guest

    I read the entire thread when I first posted. I was amazed that nobody
    seemd to be suggesting the most obvious cause of the problem. I told you
    what was probably wrong and how to correct it if my guess is correct. If
    you screwed the bios when it was flashed then OF COURSE the motherboard will
    be 'dead, very dead' (just like the man said) - unless the bios can be
    reflashed properly. You can mess about trying to RMA it with Ebuyer if you
    want (good luck!) but its possible that you could be up and running again
    quite quickly if it is a recoverable bad flash.

    Tony
     
    TMack, Nov 23, 2004
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  20. Preston Kemp

    TMack Guest

    Propagation fine. Unless ebuyer have started to RMA stuff within a few
    hours I am assuming that he still has the board. He can mess about trying
    to RMA it or he can double check the possibility of a bad bios flash. It
    seems pretty obvious that a bad bios flash is the most likely cause - he had
    a working motherboard, he flashed the bios, it stopped working. A bad bios
    flash will make the board 'dead, very dead' just like the man in the shop
    said - I have recovered several 'dead' motherboards by reviving their bioses
    so there is still a good chance of recovery.

    Tony
     
    TMack, Nov 23, 2004
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