OT Go buy this book. Because I said so.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Work in progress, Jan 21, 2007.

  1. Michael Bywater - Big Babies Or: Why can't we just grow up?

    It's currently half price at Waterstones.

    Short article that gives a flavour here.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Con.../arts/2006/10/22/svbabies22.xml&site=6&page=0

    From the blurb

    "Have you ever thought 'hold on, just what the hell is going on here
    anyway? Have you ever had the creeping feeling that in some strange
    way we are throwing away two and a half millennia of Western
    civilization, but can't quite put your finger on why?

    That bit by bit, day by day, our culture becomes increasingly
    infantile? That we are more and more offered the quick fix, the
    ticking off, the expedient lie, the jingle and the spin?

    Have you begun to loathe the catchy slogans, the obsession with
    safety, [1] the horror of risk, the fear of complexity [2], the
    preoccupation with surface, the apportioning of blame, the instant
    gratification?

    Have you ever wondered what happened to grown-ups or why we are so
    constantly treated like children?"

    It's from the chap who wrote the marvellous 'lost worlds' that I had
    my head buried in on last year's French Trip. 50 odd pages in, it's
    rather good.

    [1] maybe TOG should buy a copy for his H&S lady.
    [2] waves at ogden
     
    Work in progress, Jan 21, 2007
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    porl Guest

    It might well be but it doesn't say much for the trip.
     
    porl, Jan 21, 2007
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  3. Might buy it for myself, actually. Got some book tokens spare, although
    those are presently earmaked for the new Pierrepoint biography.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 21, 2007
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    I don't imagine her posting was intended as a crtique of the trip.
     
    Colin Irvine, Jan 21, 2007
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    dwb Guest

    So let me get this straight, you're advocating buying a book that tells
    you things you already know and, it would seem to me, takes advantage
    of the very things you appear to believe your rankling against to make
    some money out a current phase?

    I think you've been had.
     
    dwb, Jan 21, 2007
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  6. snip blurb
    What in the book do you already know? The blurb was phrased as
    questions not statements, which he goes on to illustrate and discuss.

    I'm advocating buying a book by a good writer (who incidently is
    writer in residence at Magdelene, Cambridge) who takes a fresh and
    humorous look at cultural studies and looks at the history of
    Modernity and its outcomes. Given the recent 'the ratchet tightens'
    thread I thought it was an apposite recommendation. Though perhaps the
    'because I said so' in the subject line would have been better phrased
    as 'it's for your own good' as it was intended as a comment on the
    nanny culture.
    based on what?
    Where was I 'rankling'? I was quoting.
    Should writers not make money then?
    I think I've spent a pleasant couple of hours gaining a new
    perspective, being amused and educated. If you see that as 'being
    had', I pity your ignorance.
     
    Work in progress, Jan 21, 2007
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  7. I think it reflects more on my anti social tendencies when I'm in a
    reading frenzy than on the pleasant company I enjoyed when I did put
    the book down. Or had it removed from me to find out what was
    enthralling me so much.

    Of course when I was actually riding the bike I wasn't reading, I've
    yet to work out how to do that without crashing...
     
    Work in progress, Jan 21, 2007
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    Beav Guest

    Talking books and an mp3 player.


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    Beav, Jan 21, 2007
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    Pete Fisher Guest

    Whilst I agree with the thrust of the general argument so far as it is
    outlined in the article, I suspect there is a touch of the Peter or
    Petronella Pan (no tinkerbell jokes please) in more than a few UKRM
    denizens on a 'personal level'.


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    Pete Fisher, Jan 21, 2007
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  10. Can we do clap jokes?
    In all of us, I suspect. He goes into the 'what's in it for us?'
    rationale, quite uncomfortable reading on occasion.
     
    Work in progress, Jan 21, 2007
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    porl Guest

    Geem, I don't know. You're damned if you use smilies and you're damned
    if you don't.
     
    porl, Jan 22, 2007
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  12. That's listening, not reading. there's a big difference. The voices
    you assign to characters and the pacing of the work for example.
     
    Work in progress, Jan 22, 2007
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  13. Reading on French Trip
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=geem

    You're an excited geek now?
    I'm not in the best of moods atm.
     
    Work in progress, Jan 22, 2007
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    porl Guest

    porl, Jan 22, 2007
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    porl Guest

    I can't heaaarrrrr yooouuuuuuuuu!!!
     
    porl, Jan 22, 2007
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  16. Nah, relatives stopping being Old and Shite would do it.

    Anyway don't they have killer jellyfish so you can't actually fall off
    the board for fear of death?
     
    Work in progress, Jan 23, 2007
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    porl Guest

    That's up north during the summer. Not only no one fall of their board
    they don't even go out because it would very likely result in death.
    Here they just sting a bit, like a nettle.
     
    porl, Jan 23, 2007
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    porl Guest

    Everytime I've been to Colorado [1] it's dumped down.





    [1] Once.
     
    porl, Jan 23, 2007
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  19. Hmf. It's started snowing in the Pyrenees. At last.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 23, 2007
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    Ace Guest

    Have you given it a go yet?

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