OT Gatso's and cages

I was over on the mainland at the weekend for the F1 at Silverstone. (From
Northern Ireland)

Leaving Rugby late on Sat night both a friend (following close behnd me) and
I were double flashed by a Gatso leaving the town in our Avis hire cages. I
glanced down at the speedo and we both reckon we were a tad under 40mph in a
30 limit. So what happens next then? I assume they will contact the hire
company for our details. Is there something about having deliver a NIP
within 2 weeks of the offence? Assuming they do get in contact both hire
cars had two named drivers, does it make sense to claim we don't know who
was driving at the time of the offence? How likely is it there was no film
in it? After what period of time can I assume they won't be getting in
contact?

Without any local knowledge of camera locations England is one miserable
place to drive a car now, on the bike would be even worse. We have four
camera's in the whole of NI atm, no doubt we'll catch up on you eventually
though.

TIA Tullyhubbert

 

Riding for riding's sake: B roads or lower A roads is where you want to
be - reduce speed through villages - but to actually get somewhere:
motorways at less than a 100.

Although I think that's been pretty much always the case.

Anyway, Sussex doesn't seem to bad for poorly sited or sighted cameras.

 

.... falsify evidence and ...

That's your call, that is.
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Fucking cage drivers - I hope they throw the book at you. Speeding in a
30 is neither big nor clever, & if you couldn't see a girt big bright
yellow box at the side of the road you're obviously too blind &/or
stupid to be driving in the first place.

 

And what part of leaving late did you not understand? Stupid I may be but I
can't see in the dark.

Tullyhubbert

 

Damn, that was a disappointingly small nibble :-(

 

I reckon he'll be alright with this ... as long as he doesn't do
something really fucking stupid, like posting his intention to pervert
the course of justice on a public NG before hand.

 

They only have to send a NIP (first class post or better) to the hire
company so that it would be expected to get to them inside 14days.
This is the only one for which the 14 days count.

With the NIP there will also be a S172 request to nominate the driver
(this is (in law) separate to the NIP). The hire company will
nominate you as driver (this can't however be used as evidence that
you are the driver). You will be sent your own S172 request (I think
you get a NIP as well). This will be worded in such as way that if
you fill it in admitting you are the driver it will amount to a
confession signed by the accused that can then be used in court as
evidence that you were the driver. If you say someone else was
driving they will then get their own S172/NIP. Without the confession
the speeding charge will fail, however, if you don't nominate
yourself or someone else you automatically become guilty of another
offence - failing to furnish details of the driver. If you name more
that one driver you will quite likely be summoned to court and will
have to present a convincing case to the Mags that you could not with
reasonable diligence have determined who the driver was. If you get
caught out lying under oath court by say, admitting you were the
driver in an internet forum, there's a very good chance you could go
to jail.



If you want chapter and verse on this check out the www.pepipoo.com
forums (particularly judicial process).

HTH

Jim

 

You're not helping your argument.

 

"Jim Ingram" wrote in message

Considering where I live if it gets to that stage I'll just accept the fine
and points due. Like most I'd rather dodge them if at all possible but as my
licence is clean atm it won't be that much of a problem.

I'll check the above out later.

Thanks ... Tullyhubbert

 

"Krusty" wrote in message

You'll have to be more insulting than previously to get a better bite. I
posted expecting replies to vary from helpful through sarcasm to outright
flames. So far your pitiful effort qualifies for the best flame. )

Tullyhubbert

 

You probably need to call the expert in these matters ;o) (1)

UK cannot put points on your NI licence yet BTW, you will have to attend
court and pay a fine though.

(1) July 2005 and *still* a clean licence since 1990

'Hog

 

Oh well, that's better than nothing I suppose. I promise I'll try
harder next time.

 

You were speeding in a 30 and got nicked (possibly). IMHO you
deserved it and the fact that it was "late" is not a mitigating
circumstance.

So be a big boy and admit it and move on.
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Oh do **** off you sanctimonious ****.

'Hog

 

Hardly. He was speeding in a 30 which IMHO, (you may not share that
opinion) is out of order. If you're gonna speed at least do it
somewhere other than urban 30's. But regardless of where it's done if
you get nicked just accept it and move on. It's a calculated risk and
this time the OP lost.

No need to get rude about it, you ****.
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Tsk, I can't help but feel there is some bad language creeping into this
group of late. Lets all try and avoid the pottymouth chaps.

 

"Andy Cunningham" wrote in message

If I do get notification that I was caught then I can't complain, they got
me fair and square. However like most I'd prefer not to pay a fine or
receive points.

I never said it was YTC. This was in reply to Krustys comment about being
too stupid to slow down when I seen a big yellow box. It was late/dark so I
failed to see it. Do keep up please and quote me correctly in future.

Tullyhubbert

 

I rather think you're the TC. You appear to me, to be explaining the
fact that you did not see the Gatso because it was late and therefore
dark (mitigating circumstance).

Headlights??
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Hear fucking here!!