OT Fox Hunting (kind of)

Lady Nina says...

Fucking criminals, should be locked up.

 

It's not about political correctness, it's about cruelty.

I don't like that we do cruel things, and I think it's better to
change those things.

 

Absolute rubbish.

It's cruelty to animals, which is why people want to ban it.

Enormous lack of understanding here. Well done.

 

That's the rub: the CA's own literature can't even agree. It says
that it's the only way of keeping the fox population down (to chase
them with dogs, then rip them apart). In the next sentence it says
that it's not cruel because they hardly ever catch the fox to rip it
apart.

 

No damage done at all, they came over the fence and through one of our
fields, the hounds had a poke around the garden, then they hopped over
another fence and away.

Well, I hope that these politicians games don't cause too many idiotic
laws to be passed. Judging by the record number of acts and things
passed in these few years, I rather think that my fears have already
been realized.

 

And there's a flip-side, which no doubt won't have occurred to you, as
you are obviously not very bright.

The Tories for years were the self-styled party of law and order,
saying how dreadful it is that people march, and civilly disobey the
law. And now look at them!

 

No, that's not it at all.

 

whoosh.

Think Fun Lovin' Criminals.

 

It did occur to me that if the protestors had been acting exactly the same
way but had been a bunch of Chutney Ferrets or coloured asylum seekers then
plod would be in the middle of press & political hyteria by now. The double
standards stink.

 

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Oh, if it was just the hounds then no problem. It's when the Hooray's
think it's OK to ride the horses through that things get damaged.

Aye.

 

So what we need is dogging with foxes.

 

Having seen the coverage following the poll tax riot at which I was in
attendance in trafalgar square, I know how selective the footage tends
to be. Having said that, the footage of thick set geezers running up to
the barriers and punching Plod, and Plod retaliating with their batons
seemed no worse than the usual punch and judy knockabout.

There was none of the charging horses into dense crowds which had
nowhere to move to like at the student loan protests in '88 either as
far as I know.

 

I must admit I take it as read that anyone who hunts foxes is acting
like a twat - and a cruel twat at that. Where I vacillate is whether
or not this cruelty and twattishness is sufficient to have it
outlawed. This week I'm voting "yes".

 

Extracted from
http://www.guardian.co.uk/letters/story/0,,1306587,00.html
is the following -

· Ah, the traditional "blooding" of the demonstrators on the occasion
of their first "bill". The uniforms, the spectacle, the colour! How
impoverished we all would be if such a quintessentially British custom
were ever to disappear from our urban scene.
Mike Hine
Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey

 

My parents live in rural Essex. A few of the people who live on the
edge of the village were sick of the hunt riding roughshod, and
decided that the hunt wasn't coming through their gardens, and so
stood firm on their own boundaries, with loaded shotguns.

The hunt came through and *demanded* access. They were told that they
didn't understand "country ways". Cut a long story short: the hunt
didn't trepass over the property of those who were defending same.

The people who apparently don't understand country ways make Joe
Grundy look like a metropolitan sophisticate. The cunts on the horses
were weekenders from London.

 

Colin Irvine says...

I rather liked the quote from Frederick Forsyth

 

Personally I've never seen a fox chased. I just object to the pointless
hunting down of fairly harmless animals, that have just as much right to
exist on the planet as we do.

I don't object to farming animals for food.

 

Aye, but there is a matter of choice here. Many that go to night clubs
have the choice to go, and having been in such places myself, you get
the choice whether to be involved in any incident too. You have to agree
that trouble in a night club is to be expected.

A fox, or badger, or whatever you're hunting, is simply fighting for
it's life, it's trying to survive, and has no choice in being the
subject of a hunt.

 

Absolutely. This is my point from the start, this is a sport to
entertain the toffs, and that's it, nothing more.

It's certainly right that this has become blown up out of proportion,
and it's not just fox hunting that's the issue, it's *all* blood sports.

 

This is where? In the restaurant, after they have finished their
meal? The waiters in uniforms, the flashy credit cards, the adding of
the gratuity ...

I can see that.