OT Fox Hunting (kind of)

Drag-hunting requires the same resources (apart from a cuddly-wuddly
foxy-woxy) as real fox-hunting.

If, in the event of a ban on fox-huting, the hunts don't go drag-hunting
instead then they can't care too much about the jobs after all.

 

I'll stick with my suggestion.

 

Another tradition we have is of course freedom of speech - unless we
suddenly became communists!

Personally I'm pretty passive about the whole affair, although I'd
rather not see fox hunting in our country. It's only an opinion though,
and I'm not about to go and start a riot about it. Indeed, I'm more
concerned about the riots than the fox hunting per se'.

For sure, this is all about votes in the next election, could anybody
honestly say they'd do any different though?

I fully agree that there are far more important issues at hand, and
perhaps the protestors might also consider that too. Why aren't they
rioting for better education or shorter hospital waiting lists?

 

LOL, I just love ukrm!

 

Not been watching the new then?

There has to be one.

Why?, they affect more of the country than fox hunting does?

Apart from the loss of a few chickens out of the European chicken
mountain!

 

So... just because some ethnic groups get to slaughter animals in
barbaric and inhumane ways, and nobody's worked out how to stop them
without the soppy PC crowd jumping up and down and playing a full hand
of "race" cards, this means that all ongoing cruel and barbaric acts
should be automatically permitted to continue forever?

Taken at face value, your argument as stated seems to be "it's okay to
act like cunts, because *if* an ethnic minority acted like cunts they'd
be allowed to get away with it". Better to argue the case for or against
fox-hunting on it's own merits I think.

And you can stick your "tradition" up your arse too. If something's
wrong, fix it - don't fear change.

 

Dave Bongo Bollocks secured a place in history by writing:

Much disputed - traditional Western methods of slaughter are not exactly
cuddly and friendly because we don't give a shit for the animal's
welfare.... halal/kosher meat isn't, by definition, if the animal is
scared, for a start...

You are a management consultant and ICMFF inspirational mouse-mats.

 

I grew up on a Farm and lived in London for 5 years and I can tell you
the real reason it was banned is it's perceived as a class issue and by
banning it Tony can appease the left of the party, it's been the Ace [1]
up his sleeve for ever.

The sad thing is it's not a class issue, if you go up to Northumbria you
can see that, it's a bit harder in Tunbridge Wells or Islington but as
the media is entirely run by urban loveys [2] for whom meat comes from
the supermarket this story is not told.

I'm not a hunting man but I marched because the alternatives to hunting
are worse and I believe people should be able to do more or less what
they want on there own land, remember, Hitler banned hunting.

My only hope is it will be protected by the European Union in the same
way as Bull fighting is in Spain.

[1] shhh not you
[2] I am now an urban man my self but I'm not prepared to eat an animal
I'm not prepared to kill.

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and omissions are not just excepted but expected.

 

You work in IT. It's a given.

 

I think you'll find the left of the party really don't give a **** and
have much, much bigger issues Mr Tony had better get on with in the
appeasement department.

 

At least the purpose of the excercise with Halal and Kosher meat is to eat
the thing after it has been killed. In fox hunting the purpose of the
exercise these days is pure entertainment (there are far more cost-effective
ways to control foxes). The crux of the matter is that in the 21st century
a law has been passed that forbids people to set a pack of dogs on a small
wild animal in order to provide entertainment for themselves. In itself
this hardly seems controversial. However, the problem here is that the
power of the old establishment has been challenged by the power of the new
establishment. The fox hunting types just can't cope with the idea that
they no longer wield sufficient power to get their own way - hence all the
demonstrations threats of direct action etc. What I find really amusing are
the sudden declarations of contempt for democracy and the rule of law from
all the Mail and Telegraph reading types who are usually the first to bleat
on about the importance of being a law-abiding citizen.


Tony

 

SNIP

Wow! Godwin's law fulfilled so soon. I'm afraid that, under clause 3 that
means that the anti hunting lobby have 'won' this particular argument.

Tony

 

And it would also mean you have lost the battle.[1] However it doesn't
apply as I'm not comparing Tony and his mates to Hitler or the Nazi
party and the thread isn't long enough.

I'm pointing out that some pretty unpleasant people share the ideal of
banning hunting, in this instance Hitler is the figure head or
“ambassador” if you will for a bunch of cunts, including this guy I met
down the pub.

Animal rights “activists” have got what they want, it's another sad
instance of terrorism working.

[1] I would say the reverse if true, the pro-hunt lobby lost the battle
[2] but won the argument [3]
[2] to not get legislated against
[3] as far as I'm aware all vaguely independent and open minded
investigations have concluded that banning hunting would not improve the
lot of a many if any foxes but would instead make life worse for a great
many foxes and humans

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and omissions are not just excepted but expected.

 

See now that is inhuman and *should* be banned.

I've heard of dogging but never foxing.

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As you can probably tell I'm heavily Dyslexic so errors
and omissions are not just excepted but expected.

 

**** the foxes...
--
O
1 Black, shortly to undergo extensive surgery.
1 Red, undergoing lightweight surgery. -----
1 Blue, for Power-Ranger baiting. | o |
Numbers ... | o |
Stuff ... | ooo |
Life ... -----

 

--
O
1 Black, shortly to undergo extensive surgery.
1 Red, undergoing lightweight surgery. -----
1 Blue, for Power-Ranger baiting. | o |
Numbers ... | o |
Stuff ... | ooo |
Life ... -----

 

TMack wrote:


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What I

I find it amusing that the party that for so long (when in opposition)
advocated civil disobedience of "bad laws" is now so firmly for the
establishment because they are now in power. Look back to the Poll Tax
riots and there were a lot of Labour Party people actually calling for
the riots, they got themselves arrested on picket lines at Wapping and
during the miners strike but anyone who protests now and gets his head
bust by a copper must be a troublemaker right?

 

<looks in bathroom mirror>

I am a *tiger*! RRRROAAARRRR!

 

Absolutely, there are many traditions that have been long forgotten -
the stocks, witch burning at the stake, invading other countries......
ooh, as you were....

Besides, we're comparing here the act of hunting down a single animal
for pure sport, against the need to slaughter animals for food. For sure
each needs to be dealt with (if at all), but not for the same reasons.

One point mentioned by somebody else ealier might indicate that a
compromise is possible. After all it can't be possible that a single fox
can make that much difference to human food stocks, so the hunt is there
purely for the sport. Why not adapt the sport, so that the whole
industry can still survive, but without the need for the actual killing
part.

We have to remember that the fox is only there in great numbers because
we have given them a plentiful food supply. That's the way nature works,
predators are controlled by the availability of food. It wouldn't matter
so much, but when that food is part of a heavily subsidised and
over-producing industry, why should the poor old fox be the one to
suffer?

 

Abso fucking lutely.
If farmers made it more difficult for foxes to get easy prey, then the
foxes would be forced to kill other prey; like rats, water rats, mink and
wheely bins.