OT find out who owns a bit of garden

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Alan Crowder, Dec 15, 2010.

  1. Alan Crowder

    Alan Crowder Guest

    Where i live with have no pathways at all, but the first 6' of our
    gardens we do not own, therfore Comtel (years ago) were able to come
    along and install cable broadband etc and then put the grass back as it
    were, many of us for over 27 years have been treating this area as ours
    by cutting the grass and caring for the land, how do you find out
    exactly who owns this bit of land?

    It might be the original builder, or even the local council but i would
    like to know.

    Thanks
    Alan

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    Alan Crowder, Dec 15, 2010
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  2. Alan Crowder

    CT Guest


    Build a shed on it, then wait and see who comes along to complain?

    No, I have no idea!
     
    CT, Dec 15, 2010
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  3. Alan Crowder

    prawn Guest

    Land registry? Alternatively you can fence it off and, after seven
    years, claim it as yours through unchallenged continuous use.

    <waits for lawyers>
     
    prawn, Dec 15, 2010
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  4. Alan Crowder

    Beav Guest

    Should've lobbed a fence around it and hoped no-one would notice for 7
    years.
     
    Beav, Dec 15, 2010
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  5. Alan Crowder

    Beav Guest

    They won't come, coz you're right. A pal of mine lost a tract of land behind
    his house because a neighbour fenced off an area he wanted. 7 years later,
    it was his and there was **** all my pal could do.

    He moved shortly afterwards anyway, so it wasn't a loss in the greater
    scheme of things.
     
    Beav, Dec 15, 2010
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  6. ****. I'd have been lobbing petrol bombs through his living room window.
    To get away from a cuntish neighbour?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 15, 2010
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  7. Alan Crowder

    TOG@Toil Guest

    There was something similar a couple of years ago - some bod had been
    squatting in a *very* nice house (council owned? I unremember) in
    London for 12 years or whatever the time was, and it was his.
     
    TOG@Toil, Dec 15, 2010
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  8. Alan Crowder

    prawn Guest

    IIRC it's one of the oldest bits of extant case law in Archbold.
    Something along the lines of "If farmer Giles is too stupid to realise
    that a parcel of land is his then he don't deserve it".
     
    prawn, Dec 15, 2010
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  9. Alan Crowder

    Pete Fisher Guest

    The locals in la France profonde can get very touchy about land and
    boundaries. Ours is all defined on an official plan but divided up in
    to five separate parcels. The owner of the land next door has given some
    of his to his daughter (including some to build a new house on), but he
    came to see us with a view to simplifying the boundary between us which
    was a bit like a dog's hind leg. From what he said if a neighbour so
    much as let a fence post veer half a metre from the official line he
    would have them up before some kind of tribunal or some such before you
    could say knife unless they moved it. In the end we did a deal which
    exchanged some of our land for his to create a nice straight boundary,
    mainly marked by a row of ancient trees. The land in question is mostly
    quagmire except in the very height of a dry summer, so it was all a
    pretty academic exercise. Did cost both of us a few euros for the new
    plan to be drawn up and registered with the commune, but it saves me
    having to maintain a rickety boundary fence.

    As to the OP's enquiry, it sounds like communal land which the LA
    (possibly Highways Dept) may own. After 27 years it might be hard to
    find the original plans for the development (open plan front area by the
    sound of it) but worth trying the LA first. If they say it isn't theirs
    then a Land Registry enquiry submitting a plan is probably the only way
    forward (at a cost).

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    Pete Fisher, Dec 15, 2010
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  10. Alan Crowder

    Beav Guest

    All my pal had to do was remove the fence. Would've taken about 5 minutes.
    Oddly, they were mates for a long time, but the real reason was to get away
    from his wife.
     
    Beav, Dec 15, 2010
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  11. Alan Crowder

    malc Guest

    The neighbour's wife?
     
    malc, Dec 15, 2010
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  12. Alan Crowder

    Beav Guest

    Fortunately not.
     
    Beav, Dec 16, 2010
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  13. Alan Crowder

    Beav Guest

    Nice. Well apart from it being in London, that is, although it's probably
    worth a fortune.
     
    Beav, Dec 16, 2010
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  14. Alan Crowder

    CT Guest

    You're not with Samuel Johnson then?

    Heathen!
     
    CT, Dec 16, 2010
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  15. That sounds like "Adverse Possession", apart from the 7 years bit
    (it's 12 years for adverse possession).

    It's not been quite as simple as "Fence it off for <x> years and it's
    yours" since the Land Registration Act 2002 which requires that the
    Land Registry tells the registered owner (if there is one) that some
    scrote is trying to nick their land and giving the registered owner
    time to evict said scrote.

    Cheers,

    John.
     
    John Anderton, Dec 16, 2010
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  16. Alan Crowder

    Donnie Guest

    Interesting, theres a row of trees and some land behind my house that I
    would love to have, about 10 feet or so.

    Now, if i fence it off and no one challenges it, then how do you claim
    after the 7 years and how do you prove it was fenced for the specified
    time then?

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    Donnie
    "**** the world, it's time to fight back"

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    Donnie, Dec 16, 2010
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  17. Since some pikey managed to snag a few acres of woodland around his
    caravan in the middle of Stockbroker County, iirc. Right fuss at the
    time.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 16, 2010
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  18. Alan Crowder

    Lozzo Guest

    My ex claimed something like 120 square metres of garden off Anglian
    Water simply by moving the fence when she had a new one erected and
    having the date she did it recorded by a friendly solicitor type chap
    who lives up the road. Almost doubled the size of the garden.

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    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Dec 17, 2010
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