OT;; Death of transvestite Abo custody death = australias shame

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  1. Peter Lucas

    Peter Lucas Guest

    Saturday, July 20, 2010
    Protest for Veronnica Baxter

    On July 9, 13600 people took to the streets to condemn the death of
    Aboriginal transvestite woman Veronnica Baxter. She was found dead in
    the Silverwater Metropolitan Reception and Remand Centre — a prison
    for men — six days after her arrest by Redfern police on minor drugs
    charges.

    The protesters were in Wollongong for Queer Collaborations, a yearly
    student activist conference supporting lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans,
    intersex and gender diverse rights. The July 5-9 conference had 180
    participants and the theme “Fighting Queers Need Fighting Unions”.

    People in the Wollongong mall responded positively to the loud chants
    of "Stop black deaths in custody — justice for Veronnica Baxter" and
    signed two pages of petitions within an hour.

    Stef Greenshields, Queer Collaborations conference spokesperson told
    Green Left Weekly: “The action was good because it showed a huge
    amount of positive support for this campaign. We will take the
    campaign onto campuses and won’t stop till we have won justice for
    Veronnica Baxter.”

    The action joined the growing chorus calling for an inquiry into her
    death. The Indigenous Social Justice Association (ISJA), Community
    Action Against Homophobia, Intersex Sex and Gender Association, Still
    Fierce, Organisation Intersex International (OII), Socialist Alliance
    and the Greens all support the call for an inquiry.

    Queer Collaborations projections include combating homophobia in high
    schools through a referendum on equal marriage rights; helping the
    campaign to free Leela Krishna, a gay Tamil refugee detained in
    Villawood; and continuing to develop dynamic queer collectives in
    universities. Queer Collaborations 2011 will be held in Perth.

    [For more information about the Veronnica Baxter campaign, call Ray 02
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    end_of_the_skype_highlighting, Stef 0400 253 384, Tracie 0403 398 808,
    or Sylvia 02 9230 3030.]
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    Peter Lucas, Jul 23, 2010
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  2. Saturday, July 20, 2010
    Protest for Veronnica Baxter

    On July 9, 13600 people took to the streets to condemn the death of
    Aboriginal transvestite woman Veronnica Baxter. She was found dead in
    the Silverwater Metropolitan Reception and Remand Centre — a prison
    for men — six days after her arrest by Redfern police on minor drugs
    charges.

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    Looks like your post is totally queer
    a transvestite is not a she,
    it is a person who dresses in the clothing of the opposite sex,
    i.e., a person who cross-dresses.
    still a male
     
    George W Frost, Jul 23, 2010
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  3. Peter Lucas

    CrazyCam Guest

    I dunno George....

    OP reads like she was a woman, and a transvestite, as in wore blokes'
    clothes, and she got locked up in a prison for blokes.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Jul 23, 2010
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  4. I dunno Cam......
    even though I have never been in the situation either way,
    but, I thought that if the tranny was male and had male appendages, he was
    locked up in a male prison.
    If it was a female dressed in male attire, then the name should have given
    the game away and they do a frisk search, if the tranny was female, then it
    would have objected till it was transferred to an all female prison
     
    George W Frost, Jul 24, 2010
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  5. Peter Lucas

    theo Guest

    I read these words "-Aboriginal transvestite woman Veronnica Baxter.
    She was found dead in the Silverwater Metropolitan Reception and
    Remand Centre".
    Sounds like a woman to me. Cam has it correct.

    Theo
     
    theo, Jul 24, 2010
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  6. I read these words "-Aboriginal transvestite woman Veronnica Baxter.
    She was found dead in the Silverwater Metropolitan Reception and
    Remand Centre".
    Sounds like a woman to me. Cam has it correct.

    Theo

    **************************

    Maybe so Theo but,
    reading through almost everything in the news about the death of whatever it
    was, there is still no real and final answer as to what it was, male or
    female.
    On one hand, it is claimed that the tranny was a female, then later in the
    interview, it is suggested that the tranny was a male.

    ""
    Ray Jackson, president of the Indigenous Social Justice Association and
    elder of the Wiradguri nation, and has been fighting black deaths in custody
    for decades and campaigning around the Baxter case for a year.

    He explained: "If trans people are post-operative transgender women, they
    are considered real women, and are placed within the women's jail. If they
    are pre-operative transgender women, they are considered 'male' and are
    normally processed in a male jail."

    Transgender people face a disproportionate amount of abuse, rape, and murder
    in jail. Consequently, in Australia, strict guidelines exist, requiring
    protective segregation of transgender people from mainstream prisoners.

    The Crimes (Administration of Sentences) Act 1999 states "any person
    received into the custody of the NSW Department of Corrective Services (DCS)
    who self-identifies as transgender has the right to be housed in a
    correctional facility appropriate to their gender or identification". It
    says: "Transgender inmates are to be managed according to their chosen
    gender of identification." Transgender women normally request to get placed
    in wome""
     
    George W Frost, Jul 24, 2010
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  7. Peter Lucas

    CrazyCam Guest

    I certainly don't know what, exactly, was the real story, but, winding
    up dead because of some "minor drugs charge" does seem rather over the
    top to me.

    It is a great pity that the legal system has so little acquaintance with
    justice. :-(

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Jul 24, 2010
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  8. Don't really think it ever did have
     
    George W Frost, Jul 24, 2010
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  9. Peter Lucas

    Dingo Guest

    And that makes the death ok?
     
    Dingo, Jul 25, 2010
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  10. I cannot see anywhere in the thread, where anyone has suggested that the
    death may or may not have been "okay" as you put it,
    If you had read the original post, you would have, or should have seen the
    reference to "queer"
    The object of the replies is to determine which sex the prisoner was and
    which prison it should have been admitted to
    There is no relevance at all regarding the legality of the demise of the
    inmate.
    It appears that the authorities of the detention centre, determined that it
    was a male
     
    George W Frost, Jul 25, 2010
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  11. Peter Lucas

    Mr.T Guest

    Which is fair enough, but totally failed their duty of care, which isn't!

    MrT.
     
    Mr.T, Jul 26, 2010
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