OT/Computing: recovery from motherboard replacement

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Gyp, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    So, I've given the nipper's PC a heart and lung transplant by replacing
    the elderly motherboard and processor (intel) with new (AMD).

    Looking online, it appears that the preferred method of grief
    minimisation is to use the XP install disk to do a repair.

    As I'm now on SP3, should I repair with an XP sp3 disk, or use an XP SP1
    disk (which is what the PC originally had installed)?
     
    Gyp, Apr 9, 2009
    #1
    1. Advertisements

  2. Gyp

    TD Guest

    Won't the cunting thing just boot up with the old hard disk?

    --
    TD
    2000 GSX1300RX (red and black)
    1991 VFR400R NC30 (black and red)
    1993 Eunos Roadster (supercharged)
    Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica
     
    TD, Apr 9, 2009
    #2
    1. Advertisements

  3. Gyp

    ginge Guest

    sp3, every time, as it's got SATA drivers included.
     
    ginge, Apr 9, 2009
    #3
  4. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    Bluescreens

    I've installed 2000 ok and it runs Linux OK, so the system's fine, but
    XP's not that happy
     
    Gyp, Apr 9, 2009
    #4
  5. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    I was worried you'd say that as when I tried it with SP3 it dropped out
    to the dos prompt instead of going into repair :-(
     
    Gyp, Apr 9, 2009
    #5
  6. Huh ?
     
    Brownz \(Mobile\), Apr 9, 2009
    #6
  7. Gyp

    Catman Guest

    I suspect you're looking at quite a prolonged period of pain.

    --
    Catman MIB#14 SKoGA#6 TEAR#4 BOTAFOF#38 Apostle#21 COSOC#3
    Tyger, Tyger Burning Bright (Remove rust to reply)
    116 Giulietta 3.0l Sprint 1.7 145 2.0 Cloverleaf 156 V6 2.5 S2
    Triumph Sprint ST 1050: It's blue, see.
    www.cuore-sportivo.co.uk
     
    Catman, Apr 9, 2009
    #7
  8. Gyp

    TD Guest

    Fucking shit, it really is. Not to point out the obvious, but is there any
    chance you could run 2000 or Linux on it? I mean, an OS is just a means to an
    end, after all.

    --
    TD
    2000 GSX1300RX (red and black)
    1991 VFR400R NC30 (black and red)
    1993 Eunos Roadster (supercharged)
    Missing: SOB, Unreliable Italian exotica
     
    TD, Apr 9, 2009
    #8
  9. Gyp

    ginge Guest

    As part of the SP3 refresh, the Service Pack supported SATA (and hard
    drives that were larger than 137GB) by default. SP1 & SP2 don't auto
    detect SATA on chipsets so will only install if the SATA hardware is
    emulating IDE. Because of that earlier versions generally won't see
    many variations of SATA controllers without fucking about with extra
    driver disks, which makes it a pain.
     
    ginge, Apr 9, 2009
    #9
  10. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    I'm sure I could do a clean XP install (assuming I can use my Dell key
    with a retail XP home SP1 disk). But if I can get it running again with
    minimal pain as it is it'll save me from having to reinstall loads of
    the lads software etc etc
     
    Gyp, Apr 9, 2009
    #10
  11. Gyp

    zymurgy Guest

    Path to the disks will have changed, so you'll get a hard stop.

    I just upgraded the processor in my Vista box from an XP2000 to an
    XP3200 to save me the grief.

    It needed online revalidation, but otherwise it survived ..

    Paul
     
    zymurgy, Apr 9, 2009
    #11
  12. Gyp

    Timo on tour Guest

    OpenSolaris, obviously, says the bloke typing this on a Windows 7 box.

    More to the point, use the SP3 disk as it'll save you the grief of
    having to install it anyway.
     
    Timo on tour, Apr 10, 2009
    #12
  13. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    I upgraded his box a while back by replacing the 1.3Gig Celeron with a
    2.4Gig P4, but that was basically as far as I could go with that
    motherboard and PCI-only graphics upgrades are quite constraining.

    So I opted for a decent Asus AM2+ motherboard with onboard Nvidia 8300
    graphics and popped in a 2 x 2.5 gig processor (4850e like what Champ's
    got in his mdia centre). The subsequent upgrade to the 4 x 3.0 Gig
    processor as and when they get dirt cheap should be a lot less painful
    I'm expecting to have to do that.
     
    Gyp, Apr 10, 2009
    #13
  14. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    I thought I understood this when I first read it but now I'm not so
    sure. Care to elucidate?
     
    Gyp, Apr 10, 2009
    #14
  15. Gyp

    zymurgy Guest

    I've swapped OS disks between cases before now, which is really what
    you're doing here with a mobo swap. From W2K on, it's very fussy about
    device definitions, which will change as you swap between controllers.
    It looks to be hard coded in the OS (unlike W98 and below) as it's
    able to boot, but blue screens when it tries to access the device via
    the old paths.

    Try an emergency restore. If you don't have the ERD, you can still go
    down the 'install' dialogue, it'll detect an OS, and ask if you want
    to repair it.

    Give this a go before you blatt it and reinstall.

    Cheers,

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Apr 10, 2009
    #15
  16. Gyp

    Gyp Guest

    I guess I can create an ERD by popping the HDD back in the old box (as
    I've effectively re-homed the HDD, the original Dell box is sat there
    diskless), bit won't that give me the ability to repair the Dell not
    with the new motherboard?

    I've tried to repair, but it drops out to DOS rather than popping up the
    repair console
     
    Gyp, Apr 10, 2009
    #16
  17. Gyp

    zymurgy Guest

    Yeah, I had this problem last weekend, but on W2K.

    All the emergency options were screwed, ERD and automatic detection
    (the partition map on that box is a mess) and the usual emergency
    repair process wasn't repairing.

    I gave up and was starting on a fresh OS install from CD, when it
    suddenly detected an OS and asked if I wanted to repair it. I let it
    blatt all the OS files, and it did a reasonable job of repairing the
    damage. I lost a couple of apps, but no more than that.

    All my user data is on a separate prtition anyway, so re-installing
    isn't that much of a hardship.

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Apr 10, 2009
    #17
  18. Ahhh... right, AHCI / Extended SATA etc etc support for native command
    queing and all that gubbins, I get ya.
     
    Brownz \(Mobile\), Apr 10, 2009
    #18
    1. Advertisements

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments (here). After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.