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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by darsy, Oct 31, 2004.

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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Exactly.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 3, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Which is why a high powered diesel car is no more economical than a
    petrol engine.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 3, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    It's been very much the same for years with cars too, most of the
    Diesels have certainyl evolved from existing lumps - look at the old
    Ford 1.8 block.

    The most radical Diesel I've seen in recent years is the new Honda 2.4.
    They use some very wacky engineering in that, such as semi-solid casting
    for the block.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 3, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Early 30's actually.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 3, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    I can remember the bonnets were rotting and being replaced while still
    under warranty.
    We had a lecturer at college who had one, the kit is based on a MG
    Midget, and he must have weighed about 25st.

    Almost certainly.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 3, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    Unless you go the continuous combustion. :)
     
    Muck, Nov 3, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    I suspect a lot of these old muscle engines will be victims of the
    emissions laws.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 3, 2004
  8. That and the fact that with a long-stroke engine (which a diesel has to
    be, to get the necessary compression ratio), your rev limit is
    considerably lower anyway.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 3, 2004
  9. Really? Blimey. Must have been a side-valve originally, then....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 3, 2004
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    Muck Guest

    Piston speed limit, you mean. ;)
     
    Muck, Nov 3, 2004
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    Pip Guest

    Crip-Kickers?
     
    Pip, Nov 3, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Yes a little rooting around has found that indeed it was built by
    General Motors in the 50's, and used in some of their models for a short
    time, including Buicks. However, they dropped it in favour of the cast
    iron lump.

    Now, I had a conversation with a chap, who was big on Land Rovers, and
    looked into the V8 Diesel they built. When it was first produced they
    couldn't stop it from tapping at the top end. They had indeed built it
    around the standard V8 petrol design.

    When they went through tests to find the cause, they eventually found
    that one cam lobe had been designed in reverse profile. They traced it
    back to a flaw in the original blue prints that were originally drawn up
    in the 1930's.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 3, 2004
  13. Yes, exactly. I took that as a given, but I suppose not everybody would
    understand it.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 3, 2004
  14. I remember the late Royce Creasey, years ago, writing that the Velo 500
    single he owned ran its cam backwards.

    They had a cam, they installed it, and so what if (instead of slamming
    the valve open and then gently lowering it back onto its seat) the
    profile gently lited the valve off its seat and then dropped it back
    from a great height...

    I'd *love* to know if this is true or not.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 3, 2004
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    Gyp Guest

    In message
    ITYM no.
     
    Gyp, Nov 3, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    There is no doubt that before the days of BL, Rover were a innovator.
    It was at that time.
    Of course it could be urban myth, but I have no reason to doubt the
    source.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 3, 2004
  17. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember (Andy
    Hewitt) saying something like:
    Hum... the Essex was apparently always intended to be a diesel lump too.
    Which explains the large bearing journals on it. At diesel speeds the
    bearings get a relatively easy time of it, but as a higher speed petrol
    lump it gives rise to the bearing wear these boatanchors suffer from.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 3, 2004
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    platypus Guest

    /Late/? When did that happen? Sarah reckons she saw him conducting a
    "modified" Tmax down the Gloucester Road a few months ago.
    I remember that, but I didn't remember that it was RC wot wrote it.
    http://www.hightech.clara.net/email.gif
     
    platypus, Nov 3, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Nothing changing your mind is there :)
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 4, 2004
  20. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember (Andy
    Hewitt) saying something like:
    Oh I dunno. Finances being what they are I might just soldier on with
    it, inelegant lump and all though it is. Fwiw, if I ever need to take
    the heads off I'll treat it to a lick of the Dremel and free up a few
    horses for nowt.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 4, 2004
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