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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by darsy, Oct 31, 2004.

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  1. darsy

    darsy Guest

    Before we got the Jeep, we had bought a 3 year old Fiat Punto, and ran
    it for 2 years with *zero* problems - it needed a new exhaust back box
    for the 2nd MOT I put it through, but that was it.

    Actually, when I bought the Jeep (18 months old when I got it) there
    was much sucking of teeth etc. but it's also been zero problems in the
    3 years/20000 miles I've had it - it needed a bit of work for the MOT
    before last (new exhaust back box, new front discs, a suspension
    component) but it's never let me down in any way, and absolutely
    everything still works 100% perfectly.

    The two cars I've owned from new - a Ford Fiesta Popular Plus 1.1 and a
    Citroen AX 1.0 "Jive" - also gave me 0 problems in the 2-3 years each
    of ownership.

    Perhaps I've just been amazingly lucky with car purchasing. That said,
    my Porsche 924S was really desperate for small things going wrong, but
    it /was/ 15 years old when I bought it.
     
    darsy, Nov 2, 2004
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    Ben Guest

    Seems Citroen have taken that into account. The C2 VTS is only group
    8 insurance[1], according to Parkers the Saxo VTS was group 14. That
    makes a hell of a difference to the premium. In fact if it was still
    group 14 I wouldn't be looking at one because I wouldn't be able to
    insure Anya.


    [1] To put this in perspective my 10 year old 1.3 Civic DX is group
    10!
     
    Ben, Nov 2, 2004
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    simonk Guest

    Three letters, starting with S
     
    simonk, Nov 2, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    technically, five letters, starting with B.
     
    darsy, Nov 2, 2004
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    ogden Guest

    And ending in B?

    Oh dear. I know a few people working there at the moment who used to
    work at mine, and they all seem to think it's even more of a lash-up
    than ours.
     
    ogden, Nov 2, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    I did a 14 months consultancy/contracting there - just about every
    single procedure was just made up as they went along, with conflicting
    systems and methodologies between departments - bunch of clueless
    muppets - Kenners will fit right in.
     
    darsy, Nov 2, 2004
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    simonk Guest

    Ah, you see, it's all been sorted now. Apparently. They've got some
    fancy-pants intranet portal thing that just "does" all the process for
    them...
     
    simonk, Nov 2, 2004
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    darsy Guest

    It's probably something lashed up around Biztalk and Sharepoint.

    I wonder if they're still using the noddy employee and purchasing
    systems I wrote as a "proof of concept" in about a week, and was rather
    shocked when I came back 2 months later to find they'd implemented it
    as a production system.

    If they've fixed all their systems, well and good. When I was there,
    the Broadvision-based CMS for sky.com took 5-6 hours to publish changes
    live to the site, and some business-critical applications were written
    in Domoino.

    Forgive me if I sound cynical, BTW
     
    darsy, Nov 2, 2004
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    Ginge Guest

    <head in hands>

    That sounds *horribly* familiar.
     
    Ginge, Nov 2, 2004
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    Snowleopard Guest

    On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 23:25:21 +0000,
    (The Older Gentleman) said
    Is that any use? Only when I had a hire Primera last year, I got the
    impression the TV was only any use for avoiding walls - by the time
    you saw any peds in it, they'd be under the wheels...
     
    Snowleopard, Nov 2, 2004
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    The Older Gentleman Guest

    Funnily enough, I thought of TVR after posting this, Didn't know they
    did a flat 6, but had their V8 in mind.

    Yeah, OK, engineers can do it. I mean, look at he way John britten
    managed it. But the large car manufacturers, when designing lumps, are
    looking at pollution (noise as well as exhaust) legislation that might
    be likely 20 years down the line. 100 million isn't out of court for
    some motors.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 2, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Depends on who's doing it I guess. I now that Rolls Royce were sold off
    because they couldn't afford the 100 million they needed to develop a
    new generation of engine.

    I think 30-40 million is pretty average for a small car.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 2, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Yes, we turned over £160,000 in one year, and there were about 200
    dealers. As I say we were only about average size.
    Yes, I would too, but only because of the quality of the Swindon built
    cars.
    Indeed. Hyundai are a good example of that, they are extremely reliable
    until they expire.
    Honda had 96% reliability in the late 80's and very early 90's, and were
    aiming for 98%.
    I take it you mean Focus there?
    Aye, but then all of the cars in that category are about the same. I'd
    love to have a go in a Griffith :)
    Indeed you can.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 2, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    I dub you the 'anti-Timo#2' :)
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 2, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Aye, but look at what 'better than they used to be' means.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 2, 2004
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    SteveH Guest

    I should have one of those for managing to run an assortment of shite
    old Italian iron with very few problems.
     
    SteveH, Nov 2, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    That's true.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 2, 2004
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    Andy Hewitt Guest

    Only comparative to the Japanese built cars. I'd still buy one myself.
    They do that, but that's it, and they do expire in expensive ways.
    LOL, yes, Jags have always been good VFM as second hand buys :)
    Oooh, be wary of those, if they've done near to 100k they do drop cam
    chains.
    Oh yes, they were pretty bad - although some have never been any
    different ;-)

    Indeed. Although the 96> Fiesta was much better than the predecessor.

    I believe the dealers do make it very clear, before you buy, that this
    is the case though.
    Depends on the lump I guess.
    Perhaps not, in reality my money would be heading towards Newport
    Pagnall.

    Yup. I can remember a test we did once, it was on a Honda Accord 2.0
    DOHC, 1988 model. We tested the emissions on it at 100k, and they had
    been very hard miles. The exhaust gasses were identical to the readings
    we got from a new car at PDI.
     
    Andy Hewitt, Nov 2, 2004
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    The Older Gentleman Guest

    That's about it, as regards who's doing it. This is why truck
    manufacturers collaborate so closely (Foden uses a Daf cab, etc etc).
    Developing new engines is just about too costly for any single
    manufacturer, with the possible exception of Mercedes.
    Yes, for a small car, I wouldn't argue.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 2, 2004
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    The Older Gentleman Guest


    Now reassure me, and tell me that the Silver Tuddy will still be going
    strong at 150,000 miles.....

    I was wondering about the satnav, actually. I mean, assuming you have
    the thing on all the time - or at least keep a disc in there - how long
    to satnav CD drives last for? I bet it isn't as long as the hard disk
    drive on a pooter.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Nov 2, 2004
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