[QUOTE] Look at the list of bands he was involved with. It would be remarkably short-sighted to write him off as only being the founder of the 'Madchester' thing. Without that, there would have been no Oasis vs Blur and all the sound-alikes of the time, which means no 'Brit Pop' etc - he had a direct influence over the makeup of much of the style of the top-40, even today.[/QUOTE] Did you slip out of your new "I'm Welsh" mode and back into your previous "I'm Mancunian" mode especially for that post?