OT and then some: railway engine racing?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by TOG, Nov 13, 2007.

  1. TOG

    sweller Guest

    HSTs have leccy motors.
     
    sweller, Nov 16, 2007
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    CT Guest

    heh. The hole digging on this one is approaching Lozzo-esque JCB
    levels.

    Poor Grimly - he's normal so careful too :)[/QUOTE]

    I'm sure you, I and sweller know exactly what Grimly means but the
    "ukrm way" means this sub-thread will probably go on for a bit longer
    yet!
     
    CT, Nov 16, 2007
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  3. TOG

    CT Guest

    <fx:schtum>
     
    CT, Nov 16, 2007
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    Des Guest

    So that's what they call 'em. Your posts are IMHO among the most
    informative on UKRM.

    <fx: fires up wiki>

    Oh look .. a little applet ..

    http://www.ies.co.jp/math/java/geo/panta/panta.html

    Long may this transport strike continue.

    Tum tee-tum ..

    D.
     
    Des, Nov 16, 2007
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  5. It was well reported at the time in the tech journals and I believe it
    was the train with lots of teething troubles which, given enough time,
    would all have been ironed out, but was consigned to the sidings of time
    because of cost overruns and political hoohah. Prolly the APT, but maybe
    not. At the time there was a desire to catch up and outpace the French
    TGV and the Japanese Bullet Train.

    Whole problem with the pantograph was the destructive result it had on
    the overhead lines and the aforesaid trouble with the standing wave
    causing a carriage roof strike - as I said, it was not foreseen at the
    time and caused a hasty re-appraisal of just what could be done on
    existing lines [1]. If you recall, the whole point of the APT (if such
    it was) was that it could be run at high speeds on fairly normal lines
    (hence the tilting bit) but it turned out that other parts of the line
    structure needed to be seriously looked at too.

    [1] Was that not why the power car ended up being in the middle of the
    train? Effectively dividing it into two trains and no connecting
    corridor?
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 16, 2007
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    Lozzo Guest

    Bear says...
    heh. The hole digging on this one is approaching Lozzo-esque JCB
    levels.[/QUOTE]

    Fuggoff, ya cahn.

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    Lozzo
    Triumph Daytona 955i SE
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    Lozzo, Nov 16, 2007
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  7. TOG

    sweller Guest

    The Bullet Train in 1964 and the APT project in 1966 (it has its roots
    even earlier than that). The French TGS prototypes started in the late
    sixties, the TGV itself started in 1981.

    Both the Japanese and French used new infrastructure for their high speed
    lines which BR couldn't justify so the tilt mechanism was used to combat
    the problem of the winding WCML.

    The wave effect you describe is not due to any experimental train but too
    higher speeds on traditional simple cantenary overhead line equipment
    (OHLE) - the wires are the problem not the train.

    No. They were motor coaches and the traction motors weren't bogie
    mounted but in the carriage. Why it had no passenger through corridor I
    don't know but the position of the pantograph has no bearing.
     
    sweller, Nov 16, 2007
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  8. TOG

    sweller Guest

    Meant to ask - which ones?
     
    sweller, Nov 16, 2007
    #28
  9. Fukd if I know - it was 30 years ago.
    --
    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 17, 2007
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