Opinions on Ducati ST3

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by vifer, Mar 16, 2006.

  1. vifer

    vifer Guest

    I'm in the hunt for a new bike and I;ve shortlisted it to the Triumph sprint
    ST, VFR800 and the ST3.
    I've already owned 2 VFR's so I'd like to try something else. Love the looks
    of the ST3 and the fact that's its a V motor.
    I rate the looks of the Triumph pretty highly but damn shame it's not a V
    motor. A friend has a 2004 sprint and I'm going to swap bikes for the
    weekend to get a feel for the tripple.
    But an uknown is the Duke. My local Ducati dealer does not have a demo ST3
    so it makes things a little hard for the desision making process.

    However, If anyones owned or ridden a Ducati ST3, I would interested to hear
    their general comments.


    tia.

    vifer

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    vifer, Mar 16, 2006
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    corks Guest

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  3. vifer

    D16GP5 Guest

    <<<Opinions on Ducati ST3:

    SUPERB!

    Bayliss recommends them:)
     
    D16GP5, Mar 16, 2006
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  4. Check service costs and spare parts costs.
     
    Stephen Calder, Mar 16, 2006
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  5. Yep, sorry to be a spoiler.
     
    Stephen Calder, Mar 16, 2006
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  6. vifer

    vifer Guest

    They tell me, ducati service intervals have been extended hence they should
    be close (if not on par) with jap bikes. Spare parts costs?, well exotic =
    parts premium.If I love the bike enough, I'd have to bite the bullet and
    pay Bologna;s parts premium.

    btw dude, I see you;ve got the two best passions a man could ever
    need...bikes and guitars..
    seen your posts in the guitars forums.

    vifer
    - working out how to mount my guitar stand on the vfr aka pannier style. -
     
    vifer, Mar 16, 2006
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  7. I often carry the guitar to jam sessions on my back in a soft bag. It
    wants to pull you off the bike over 100 kph though.
     
    Stephen Calder, Mar 16, 2006
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  8. vifer

    B Pike Guest

    Well, I love my ST3 heaps of grunt, good handling and reliability - I also
    don't think the servicing costs are that high either - the engine is simpler
    than 4 cylinder bikes to service.

    This is a good web site for bike details and you can do comparisons as
    well.- http://www.bikez.com/motorcycles/ducati_st3_2005.php

    Baz
     
    B Pike, Mar 17, 2006
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  9. vifer

    D16GP5 Guest

    Ducati had a "free-care" offer on all NEW 04' and 05' Ducati's in
    stock.All your services where FOC for the first 2 years of
    ownership.This winds up on the 31st.March so you better get cracking.

    Hate to say it, but better to buy it off Frasers even if you have to
    travel to NSW, as they have demo units and would most likely do the
    best deal around as they want to quit 04/05 stock.They *might* even
    give you a jacket give u a free massage or something.

    As far as service is concerned, is it a nuclear rocket or something?Do
    you know how to use a screwdrive and spanner and get your hands a
    little dirty?Its not hard, buy the workshop manuals join the DOC Club
    and your Duke wont have to visit a dealer again.Or you can visit one of
    the many cheaper non authorised Ducati specialists
    Simple and cheap ownership is there for the taking..The DOC has
    discount parts offer and if some part seems expensive do a google and
    buy from o/s.No need to be screwed.
    The "G" is correct but not in guitar, more like G-spot, or just plain
    G for Girls...

    Cheers

    Looking foward to your posts
     
    D16GP5, Mar 17, 2006
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  10. That depends a lot on your point of view.

    Actually, no, it doesn't.

    The Ducati has 10,000km valve service intervals (assuming its the same as
    my '99 Monster), the valve service intervals on the VFRs the original
    poster is used to are (I think) 24,000km. The Ducati services are more
    expensive too, my 2 valve Monster (which would have to be similar or
    cheaper to service than a 3 valve ST3) costs around $700 for the 10,000km
    services from a dealer (and an extra couple of hundred at the 20,000km
    services for new cam belts).

    Ducatis _do_ cost more to service than most equivalent Japanese bikes,
    quite likely more than 4 times as much (twice as expensive, more than twice
    as often).

    Don't believe that ad campaign of Frasers. (actually, don't believe
    _anything_ you hear from Frasers without reliable secondary confirmation...)

    Having said that, the valve services are easy enough to do yourself, and
    I'm happy enough with the time and money I spend keeping up with the
    scheduled maintenance on my Ducati, but I don't try to kid myself that its
    a cheap-to-maintain bike choice...

    still-bitter-big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Mar 17, 2006
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  11. vifer

    smack Guest

    I've ridden an ST2 and ST4. Loved them both. Reason I don't own one is, I
    already have a Ducati.

    The service fees are horrendous, you will have to sell your house just to be
    able to afford an oil change. And god help your offspring when it breaks
    down. It could sit at a dealers for years waiting for parts. Then they won't
    fit.

    Of course, I could be making this all up, like the other non Ducati owners
    :p
     
    smack, Mar 17, 2006
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  12. vifer

    ck Guest


    exotic????? Go up the old road and see how many are up
    there...................

    ck
     
    ck, Mar 17, 2006
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  13. vifer

    ck Guest

    Its not hard, buy the workshop manuals join the DOC Club

    Well joining the "club" goes without saying

    if you buy one of those pieces of shit isn't it compulsory to join the club,
    buy the jacket, the helmet, belt buckle, socks, undies,
    pyjamas................................

    that wouldn't surprise anyone here - it wouldn't appear you have much else
    to look forward to

    ck
     
    ck, Mar 17, 2006
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  14. If your expectations are starting out with the 24,000km valve clearance
    checks on a VFR, I suspect you'll be a little disappointed... I haven't
    heard of Ducati increasing the interval from 10,000km (but I don't keep a
    particularly close eye on whats going on with newer Duc's these days...)
    Curiously enough, in my experience Ducati parts (at least the usual
    service/minor damage parts for my Monster) don't often seem to have the
    expected rich-mans-bike premium prices. $4 for an indicator lens, $24 for a
    complete indicator, $70 for a set of handlebars, $22 for replacement
    brake/clutch levers (or $40 for the aftermarket adjustable span ones from
    Gowanlochs...). The headlight assembly on the Monster is a $400 rort, but
    you can buy the same Bosch part numbers from a BMW dealer as R100 parts for
    about $80...
    heh

    big - '99 Ducati Monster 750, '88 Charvel Jackson model 4...
     
    Iain Chalmers, Mar 17, 2006
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  15. vifer

    Sprint Guest

    I owned an ST2 for two years - the ST3 offers slighty more top end poke. The
    ST2 was comfortable, very, very grunty in the low to mid ranges, and could
    keep with the sportbikes in the twisties. The decent factory panniers and
    great engine sounds are bonuses...

    My ST2 managed everything from long distances with ease to three-gear
    wheelies for entertainment, never missing a beat. I sold it only for
    financial reasons.

    Sprint :)
     
    Sprint, Mar 17, 2006
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    D16GP5 Guest

    Indeed, the Brotherhood, dont worry about sitting at the races watch
    Ducati thrash every other brand, no its a giant piss up/bench racing of
    sorts....
    Noooooo

    Thats a American gay brand, your all confussed!
     
    D16GP5, Mar 17, 2006
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  17. vifer

    ck Guest

    take a closer look - it's both brands

    you need to get out more.............

    ck
     
    ck, Mar 17, 2006
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    Johno Guest

    Service costs THAT high were they? ;p

    Johno
     
    Johno, Mar 17, 2006
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  19. vifer

    vifer Guest


    I thought (heard) wrong then. Looks like I may have to check the clearances
    myself at 10k. Then if they need adjustment, load the bike into my Van and
    take it to a Ducati mechanic.
    I've been doing that for the VFR for the past 4 majors. Out of the 4, I;ve
    only had to have them adjusted twice.

    Minors, I do myself.



    vifer
     
    vifer, Mar 17, 2006
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  20. vifer

    john doe Guest

    isn't that called a "reach around"?
     
    john doe, Mar 17, 2006
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