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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Mark Derbyshire, Mar 25, 2005.

  1. Mark Derbyshire

    Lady Nina Guest

    I shall be going to play with a coke can to see how much difference
    they've made.
    I'm running out of things to do to the bike now (apart from replacing
    bits of body work that are looking shoddy) I think.

    It's had a new indicator to replace the one Power Grainger had gaffa
    taped on, new chain and sprockets following my target fixation on the
    rock in scotland, new downpipes, new tyres, all new brake seals and
    the braided hoses.

    I can see how the Bling thing starts - "there must be something else I
    can replace"
     
    Lady Nina, Mar 25, 2005
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  2. Wouldn't putting the brakes on as normal do the trick or have I missed
    something important?
    I replaced my front indicators a couple of weeks ago. They don't look
    nearly as ratty as the old taped on ones and almost look nice. Along
    with the bars I'm not going to spray them with exhaust paint as....
    Exactly. Ripping the fairing off mine and going all out to make it look
    as bad as possible has given me a blank canvas and putting new parts on
    it is a way to see how it might evolve.

    I posted a link to instrument light bulbs that changed colour a while
    ago. Maybe that's a good place to start before you think about getting
    the chrome out.
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 25, 2005
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  3. Mark Derbyshire

    Salad Dodger Guest

    The force is strong in this one.

    --
    | ___ Salad Dodger
    |/ \
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    |_\_____/_| ..73392../..18192.../..3184./.19406
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4
    '^' RBR Landmarks: 0 Points: 0 Miles: 0
     
    Salad Dodger, Mar 25, 2005
    #23
  4. Mark Derbyshire

    Kiran Guest

    Silly sod.

    Anyway, talking of bleeding brakes, has anyone used one of those vacuum type
    devices that Halfords sell - you need to connect it to your tyre valve to
    create the pressure. If so, any good?
     
    Kiran, Mar 25, 2005
    #24
  5. Mark Derbyshire

    platypus Guest

    Try going the other way: start drilling bits for lightness.
     
    platypus, Mar 25, 2005
    #25
  6. OIC. I thought for a moment you wanted to put the brakes on and still
    have them on when you ran over a coke can to make the bike skid...

    I've never had a "tits" moment when braking hard, I've pulled an
    unintentional stoppie when avoiding the back of a car and had a little
    slidette in the wet when I was going round a blind left hander and
    they'd put a speed camera up. I've certainly never crashed because I
    braked too hard, the opposite in fact. I think if some idiot pulls out
    on you you're going to forget the coke can and grab a handful anyway but
    ICBW of course.

    It's possible. When my bike first went "darkened" rat, it looked really
    nice clean. It was all brand new matt black and looked good. Now it's
    all kacked up from winter I want to carefully jet-wash it to take all
    the old paint off, this will reveal the white paint underneath on the
    wheels. It will either make it even more ratty or inspire me to some
    blinging goodness. However, Auvache is getting the bling neons that are
    on it at present so the ol' tin of exhaust paint may make a spring time
    appearance.
    Heh, what can I say? I wish I'd been there ;o)
    It was never going to evolve the way it was. I was having local toe rags
    taking a shine to various bits and things were going missing from it -
    Everything from bellypans to fastners. Riding it at anything over a ton
    was not a good idea.
    The bling side's where it's at, baby.

    I'm living in denial ;o)
     
    Whinging Courier, Mar 25, 2005
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  7. Mark Derbyshire

    sweller Guest

    It's probaly drawing air in from somewhere. Possibly through the threads
    of the bleed nipple, especially if it's being loosened more than half a
    turn.

    A trick that works on soft brakes - and why I don't really know - is to
    cable tie the brake lever hard on and leave overnight.
     
    sweller, Mar 25, 2005
    #27
  8. Mark Derbyshire

    sweller Guest

    If you've loosened them and you're having problems then yes. Bear in
    mind they can draw in air and not leak - unusual but possible.
     
    sweller, Mar 25, 2005
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  9. Mark Derbyshire

    sweller Guest

    Don't undo the nipples too much - half a turn should suffice - as it can
    draw air in through the threads, especially with vacuum bleeders. The
    compressor driven one I have is an absolute bastard for this.
     
    sweller, Mar 25, 2005
    #29
  10. Mark Derbyshire

    MattG Guest

    Kiran said...
    Those aren't vacuum, those use air pressure to drive fluid through the
    system. The vacuum ones attach to the bleed nipple and suck the fluid
    through. But yes, I have used the air pressure one and therein lies a
    tale...

    You see these kits come with a selection of reservoir lids, with a hole
    in the top so you can connect the air line, see. However, what with it
    being designed for cars, there wasn't one that fitted my bike. Well,
    that shouldn't present a problem, as this one *almost* fits. When
    working at pressure, almost is never good enough. I was aware of this,
    but I was also desperate.

    So I screwed it on as best as it would fit. It looked good enough. So
    you fill the bottle with fluid, attach that to the reservoir, attach the
    hose to the spare wheel and then brake fluid shoots out of the
    reservoir, reaching about 10 feet in the air and landing in the adjacent
    stable. A frantic decoupling of components and wiping off of sprayed
    fluid was followed by a small amount of swearing.

    At this point a remembered the instructions say that the tyre should be
    deflated to approx 10 psi. I'd forgotten to do this, the tyre I was
    using was a BFO tractor tyre which, upon checking, was at 60 psi. Ok, so
    perhaps that was a little too high. I set about dismantling the system,
    cleaning it up and drying things off. I thought that maybe at a lower
    pressure the lack of a proper fitting lid wouldn't be such a problem, so
    I decided to tape the fucker down, just to make sure. Unfortunately,
    during this process, I forgot to let any air from the tyre. You can
    guess what happened.

    So a fag break and a head scratch later I decided to have one last go.
    Only this time, I had a spark of inspiration. I was going to need to get
    a few more bits for the bike, so why not order a new reservoir cap? I
    drilled a hole in the reservoir cap, connected it all up, lowered the
    pressure in the tyre, plugged it in, opened the bleed nipple and away we
    went.

    This was after fitting the new braided hoses, fluid came through
    quickly, bubbles stopped. But the lever was still spongy as ****. I had
    a few more goes but still couldn't get it sorted.

    In the end I resorted to getting my dad to give me a hand doing it the
    old fashioned way. Which worked, perfectly.

    I tried using one the other day, the process worked fine, with no
    repetition of the previous **** ups, but it didn't actually work.

    So, no - not any good, but we have already established that I am utterly
    fucking incompetent when it comes to this sort of thing.
     
    MattG, Mar 25, 2005
    #30
  11. Mark Derbyshire

    Lady Nina Guest

    "without my knowledge or consent" is that clear now?
    Then he can get his own bike and post questions about that, not use
    mine to fulfil his quota of bike related posts.
     
    Lady Nina, Mar 25, 2005
    #31
  12. I didn't actually realise it was your bike until you mentioned it.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 25, 2005
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  13. Mark Derbyshire

    Lady Nina Guest

    I didn't actually realise it was your bike until you mentioned it.[/QUOTE]

    I didn't realise he'd been anywhere near it (after I'd specifically
    said I'd rather he didn't) until someone else mentioned he'd seen the
    post in news. I'm still very annoyed, maybe unreasonably so, but given
    everything else that is going on frankly I DGAF.

    In fact I'll just <flounce> now and have done with it.
     
    Lady Nina, Mar 25, 2005
    #33
  14. Do you personally vet everyone who helps out at a dealership if you
    take the bike in there?
    Sounds like a job was being done that is easier with two of you, and
    Bear kindly helped.

    Time of the month again already is it?
     
    Simon Atkinson, Mar 25, 2005
    #34
  15. That's the trouble with you - you start off all careful and then get
    carried away.

    Out of interest, what did you top it up with? It can be tricky if
    you've got a cup of tea in your hand while bleeding brakes. A bit like
    answering the phone while ironing.
     
    Simon Atkinson, Mar 25, 2005
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  16. Mark Derbyshire

    fluffycat Guest

    you do that kind of phone-answering? coo.
     
    fluffycat, Mar 25, 2005
    #36
  17. Mark Derbyshire

    petrolcan Guest

    the cont known as Bear says...
    Was there a rubber grommet type thingy under the master cylinder cap?
    I've seen similar happen before.
     
    petrolcan, Mar 25, 2005
    #37

  18. That reminds me of Chimay, 2003, when we were all nicely pissed, and
    Niall's mobile rang. He poured a quarter of a litre of Chimay Rouge into
    his lughole.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 26, 2005
    #38

  19. The rubber bellows that expands to fill the space as the level drops in
    the m/cylinder? I've always wondered whether they actually served a
    useful purpose.

    All I could think of is that would stop the fluid picking up air bubbles
    as it sloshes around on bumpy roads.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 26, 2005
    #39
  20. I remember seeing it on a police motorcycle safety TV show - or a
    motoring programme which featured a bike safety slot - or summat - in
    the early 1980s. It is, indeed, good.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 26, 2005
    #40
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