One for TOG - Health & Safety

It appears that the HSE have identified a risk associated with too many
H&S signs in the workplace - which dilutes the effect of the really
important ones.

To publicise this issue, they've produced a sign:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/dec07.pdf

Perhaps you should print it out and give it to your H&S bint.

 

UEFA's offices are much the same. Two appliances in the break-out room
at their office near Nyon station - one's a bean-to-cup espresso
machine, the other's a dishwasher containing nothing but espresso cups.

At the HQ, I never did find the coffee machine - there are lackeys on
hand for that kind of thing, and the canteen makes MS at TVP look like a
particularly poor branch of Tasty Kebab. And as for the bogs, with their
automatic rotating bog-seat covers...

 

ogden says...

Don't you end up all dizzy and facing the wrong way while you take a
dump.

--
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Firstly this is not an unknown phenomena and has been widely debated
within the rail industry; where the wallpaper effect and the resulting
human factors response has fairly serious implications.

Although we don't tend to suffer from the plethora of silly kitchen type
warning signs [1] there has been problems with the over application of
physical safety devices to the extent the risk they're there to mitigate
becomes ignored.


You may have missed the point - I'll be charitable and say it was 'ironic
humour' - but that is not quite the point of that bulletin.

There is a real problem with the dilution of H&S by inappropriate
application and resistance to being over-managed. The majority of the
silly H&S edicts are a product of perceived liability rather than risk
avoidance; liability which is absolutely **** all to do with a structured
response to safety.

Most heavy and unionised industry [2] works like this - particularly
where there is a real risk of third parties dying if you **** up.

These H&S representatives are trained and accountable to their members.
Which sorts out the loonies and those who like being on committees for
the sake of it fairly quickly.


[1] We tend to get signs along the lines of "your mother doesn't work
here" or "this cooker is not self cleaning".
[2] I'll include the NHS in this definition.

 

Countersteer...

 

Champ secured a place in history by writing:

There's some limit on the temp - if it's above X degrees, there has to be a
sign.

 

Thispuzzled me. Apparently they had to increase the temperature of the
hot water to fend of Legionnaire's Disease. So now it's 'very hot'.

<Shrugs>

Anyway, I've got my Festive Stealth Bomber out of my desk to annoy our
H&S looney.

 

"Festive Stealth Bomber"?

 

Is that the red petrol can?

 

The Older Gentleman ( (The Older Gentleman))
gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Hmmm.

The tap in the kitchen in my office says "Very hot water". It lies. It's
never even lukewarm.

I think it's a fit of misplaced optimism. "No, it _is_ hot. Look, it says
so"

 

Barley twist poo.

 

It's probably a ludicrously hazardous condom.

 

Brings a whole new dimension the term "curling one out"

--
Dan L

Too much time to think, too little to do.


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BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6/7)
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DIAABTCOD #26
BOMB#18 (slow)
OMF#11

 

A couple of years ago, the kids bought me one of those battery powered
aeroplanes-onna-string. You see them in whatever masquerades nowadays as
the Gadget Shop, along with witches on broomsticks, flying ducks, etc.

Anyway, this is a little B2 bomber.

So when everyone was putting up their decorations, I attached a bit of
tinsel to each wingtip, and fixed it to the ceiling, where it whizzed
merrily round and round.

Our H&S looney was not impressed, but I pointed out that it was a
Christmas decoration and therefore OK.

And there the matter has rested. For the moment. She grinds her teeth
whenever she sees it.

 

Aaaaahhhh.

Like the Flying Pig - most appropriate in our Project Office.

 

^
With your legal training, I'd have thought you'd forgo the "e".



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AIUI, the water in such systems is hotter than that found coming out of
domestic taps - it has to be around 80 degrees or so to avoid incubation
of legionella.

So the warning isn't so much that "the water in the hot tap will be
hot", more that "the water in the hot tap will be hotter than you expect
it to be".

Which kind of makes sense.

 

ISTR it's not as near as 80?C, that would definitely scald.

I used to have to do tap testing on a site I FM'd, and the drill was to
go to the furthest tap and make sure it reached (i think) 50?C within X
seconds.

--
Dan L

Too much time to think, too little to do.


http://thebikeshed.spaces.live.com/
1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr

BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6/7)
X-FOT#000
DIAABTCOD #26
BOMB#18 (slow)
OMF#11

 

We've got one in our office now. A Franke someething-or-other. It
used to be in the kitchen, before the on-site canteen was closed,
dishing out cappuccino and espresso at whatever price they charged.

We now get it all for free )

 

ours don't.

yes.