One for Lozzo / It could have been worse

Well, you're of course right. But I don't really fancy a Pan. I'm sure
they're all very nice and reliable but well...

I don't have an effing clue. I think the divi 900's probably the best
suggestion from the UJM offerings. Still, I think the R1100RT is
possibly of interest... or if the elephant rally thing comes off then of
course the R1100GS...

 

750-1200cc is probably more the range he's looking for.

Most have been listed already. Another is the Suzuki GSX1100F, then there's
the pikey ZZR1100 thing, GPZ1100 IIRC. Both pretty horrid, so they'd suit
you down to the ground...


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Me or Burnt?

 

Both of us I'd assume although your MZ/Guzzi/blown-turbo penchants
prolly rule you out.

 

You. I don't think Burnt would want a chain driven bike for his commute,
which he has just confirmed in his recent post

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"Wessie is a lovely man with many wonderful qualities" TM Blaney

 

Scottoiler sees off a great deal of the chain downsides when it comes to
commuting machines.

If I had a long motorway commute I'd go the ZZR/GPX/GTR/GSX/FJ/XJ route

 

Well, I've not had to adjust or oil a chain in 100+k of K series use.

Mind you I've had to grease a few splines which is probably less time
overall.

Hmm. I've been happy with the K series. Maybe I'll hop up to the 1100
if/when the 75 finally dies.

 

Where less time overall turns out to be not quite often enough?

 

RT if you want half-decent weather protection. Weather protection on a
GS is pretty much non-existant.

 

I still don't know how BMW manage to **** it up - they were doing
splines on shafties long before Suzuki - yet I've got a 200K+ bevel box
and driveshaft with absolutely no wear on it. Greased as and when I
could be arsed, generally every rear tyre change for the rear hub
splines, but the UJs have never failed on any of mine and the splined
end of the shaft is like new.
I dont' think it's all that unusual either.
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Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
river cleaned out in a day.

 

i) Visually.
ii) Manufacturer
iii) Engine size
iv) Prejudice

 

But it wasn;t prejudice alone, was it?

Did you take a look at the bikes in burnt's sig? Do so, and then ask
yourself if it's likely he falls into your 'speed riders' category.

Anyway, he's absolutely right, the dullsville is one of worst bikes
ever produced. And no, I've not ridden one either. But I have ridden
similarly-engined Hondas and they've all been shit - adding another
50kg of windstopper fairings and boxes is hardly going to have
enhanced it.

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I have. It is not on the list of bikes I would want to own. People like
them though because they although are slow they feel big and within the
envelope that is wanted by riders of big slow bikes they perform well
enough.

 

Well, the various iterations of the Transalp use the same engines as the
NTV & Dullsville. It makes a cracking touring bike because it is not
burdened by a barn door fairing and is a lot of fun to ride, especially in
the, um, Alps.

So, IMV, one branch of Honda's V twin R&D, post CX500, got it right. You
could argue that Honda created a market niche that Suzuki, with the Vstrom,
and BMW, with the F650, moved into.

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BMW R1150GS

"Wessie is a lovely man with many wonderful qualities" TM Blaney

 

I rode an NT600 as a loaner once, which is what I was basing my
comments on. I find it hard to believe that anything could be worse
than that, but I will bow to your experience in this matter.

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Obviously you never went to Frasers when they had the GPZ500S held together
with parcel tape or the KLR650 with a digital clutch.

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BMW R1150GS

"Wessie is a lovely man with many wonderful qualities" TM Blaney