One for Des

Personally, I thought The Wall self-indulgent 6th Form A level horse
wank. But I haven't listened to it for a number of years and my opinion
may have clouded by blind anti elder statesmen of *rock* prejudice.

 

For Gibraltar or NI?

In the case of NI I don't think it's been worth the blood and isn't
worth the money. I'd view it as a refocussing of our corporate mission
and selling off non-core business...

 

But your response says you think it's likely to have happened but that
because the arms industry is so important to us we'd have suppressed the
evidence. Oh, and also that the other members of the EC don't get
involved in teritorial disputes.

I'd guess the last point I've pulled out is pretty correct. I still
stand by 'no evidence' though.

If you're using the fact that someone who disagrees with you in this
debate posts a single point that you agree with as confirmation of said
point, I'd suggest you thought again about how valid the confirmation
is.

He may be right, you may be right. There's no guarantee of it either
way.

I think it could be shorterned to "I doubt anyone's in a position to
give an authoritative view in this NG" without much worry...

I don't know.

I had some dealings with the railway industry some years ago where we
were discussing safety cases and apparently the 'cost' of a death was
input to the safety case; I think it was either 1 or 10 million (I
forget).

I suppose a way of working out the acceptable quantity could be:

if (c x n)<(p) then it's worth it

where c = cost per death, n = number of deaths, p = npv of revenues over
life time of oil deposit.

 

Oh, it is. But with good guitar wanking.

 

IIRC £1 million, but that was around the mid '90s

 

That was about the right time. Railtrack, 1997 I think.

 

tallbloke said...

When 6 Royal Marines were faced with an invading army and the nearest
friendly forces were many many thousands of miles away, don't you think
it's a testament to their training and discipline that they didn't
attemp to actively defend the islands. It is often more prudent to
surrender, than to fight blindly on to a certain death. The Royal
Marines are very good, but they aren't good enough for 6 men to hold off
the whole of the Argentine Army, Air Force and Navy.

 

You're just bitter 'cos the French are a bunch of cheese-eating
surrender monkeys who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag.

 

sweller wrote

I used to think it was fairly ok until last night when I downloaded the
/full/ version.

It is utter fucking crap.

 

Lozzo wrote

If only there had been 8 of them history might have been completely
different eh?

 

Gib. But I'm not sure the residents would go for that.

Any solution that moves away from violence is good, IMO. It's not
perfect, but it's getting somewhere...

 

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 15:02:50 +0000, steve auvache
<> bored us all completely to death with wittery
prose along the lines of:

 

Cab wrote

Actually I was thinking more on the lines of full sized soldiers rather
than 2/3rd scale miniatures.

 

I can relate to that being rather younger. I personally care for
nothing before WYWH.....

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But in the case of Gibraltar I don't believe that the UK executes any
real power, does it?

I suspect you've been got at.

 

Who, the Gibraltarians or the Scots?

 

Afair, US/Allied casualties were projected upwards of 100,000, possibly
reaching 1 million. I don't recall seeing estimates for civilian
casualties, but they would have been in the millions if everyone was a
fanatic.

In point of fact, there were plenty of Japanese who were anti-militarist
pre and during the war, but they faced stringent penalties under martial
law if they voiced their opinions. I suspect that in the event of a
Home Islands invasion many, if not most, Japanese civilians would have
realised the war was lost; and after some intial bitter fighting on the
part of the Home Guard might well have not put up the expected
resistance in the long term. I would also have expected the Emperor to
eventually call a halt to the war - but who knows; if the war was going
to be continued by convential means it may well have dragged on for more
years - don't forget, the Japanese were under the impression the US had
many more nuclear bombs than it had in fact.

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Frankly I'm thinking this is all bollocks. A gun's a gun - the person
shooting it is the bastard, not the maker or the guy who sold it.

In WW2, Bofors [1] guns were used by both sides in Europe; the makers
cleaning up nicely from sales and licences.

[1] Swedish, afair.

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High Speed Train?

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