One for Des

On reflection it would have been better to wait until the Argies landed and
then Nuke the Falklands.

 

IMHO it was war the moment the Argies launched an invasion force from the
mainland and in war the Govmint has the right to be economical wiv the
truth.

 

You wank

 

They said that? how so when almost the entire British armed forces were
despatched.

 

The only way to be sure, agreed.

 

I love that. No war has been declarded, so you can't sink a ship. The
fact that an invasion force, including a submarine - people tend to
forget that the Argies deployed one first - has landed on British
sovereign territory attacked a British military base, and imposed
military occupation is fine, because no war has been declared.

And exclusion zones are illegal. Right, like unprovoked military
invasions are all right?

Des's grasp of history, like his grasp on reality, is, as ever,
remarkably shaky.

Let's take another interesting historical fact, shall we?

Question: which was the only western European nation whose troops fought
enthusiastically against the Allied (US and British[1]) forces? And
without "war" being declared?

Answer: the French.

[1] I omit the Russians, because most European nations were represented
somewhere in the German war against Russia. Even the Dutch.

 

Bad form, but "in WW2" should have been inserted there.

 

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If you start something, you can expect all you get.

"Moderation in war is imbecility"

 

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 07:19:36 +0000,

Quite so. But it was HM Government who made up the exclusion zone
rules, and then broke them.

 

Dunno. But they went to some lengths to avoid calling it a wat, as I
recall.

 

I believe they did go to enormous lengths to avoid it being
called a wat. Or a wae or wag.

Odd that.

 

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No Des, *we* are the British. You are the poxy foreigner

One thing you two idiots are forgetting is that the thing with the
Falklands was made so much easier and expedient by not actually calling
it a war. If it was a war then Mad Maggie would have had to do loads of
things according to internal and international law. By not calling it a
war she could have Argies (and us) shot at her whim and get away with it
later. Unlike yer idiot blur and his throwback merkin mates.

 

I've not done this for a long time, but it's christmas an all:

FOYRNB!

There, that's better.

 

Of course you know this means wat!

 

"Make love, not wat"

 

I can see that slogan being daubed on a lot of walls.

 

Visualise Whirled Peas!

 

Not so much rules, think of them more as guidelines. If the Argies
didn't want their cruiser sunk it should have stayed in port - with the
aircraft carrier.

 

Declaring war is actually a very, very serious move. It means invoking
all sort of legislation from trading with the enemy to arrest of enemy
aliens, you name it.

It's actually easier for all parties if war isn't declared.

Offhand, I can't think of a post WW2 scenario where war *was* declared.
There must have been some. But I don't think that even in Korea was war
declared - the US was merely acting on the wishes of the UN security
Council, and it was (which people forget) a case of the UN against
N.Korea.

Can anyone point to a post-1945 conflict where was was properly
declared? I'd love to know.

(And I assume that Des has still missed the point about the Froggies
fighting Allied troops in WW2)

 

So? Nobody ever won a war[1] by being gentlemanly. They start throwing
punches, you punch 'em back, and kick 'em in the bollocks while you're
at it.

And when they're down, you stamp on them to make sure they won't get up
again.

[1] OK, conflict. See other posting about war declarations.