Old fashioned bike dealers

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Champ, Jun 14, 2005.

  1. Champ

    Martin Guest

    [snip]
    Some romantic music and a nice dinner by candlelight will see it right.

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    Martin, Jun 16, 2005
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    Martin Guest

    Same stuff different flavour.

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    Martin, Jun 16, 2005
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    Martin Guest

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    No. It is 2 minutes max on any normal car, if it took the mechanic 10
    minutes to change a bulb I would be very unimpressed.


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    Martin, Jun 16, 2005
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    Ace Guest

    As long as there's cheese involved...

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    Ace, Jun 16, 2005
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  5. On many cars you have to remove the lens before you can change one of
    the rear bulbs. 10 mins would be fairly normal for that. Some headlamp
    bulbs can't be changed until you remove 3 or 4 other items that are
    crammed in the way in the corner of the engine bay.

    In each case, what -should- be a 2 min job becomes 10 or 20 mins.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jun 16, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    dwb says...
    Not yet
     
    Lozzo, Jun 16, 2005
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    Owen Guest

    snip

    I think we're missing the point here...

    If the customer has spent 2 - 300 ukp on a paint job, to wax up the
    adjacent panels and a quick wash off, it buys loyalty...

    While the paint is in the pot, 2 mins to touch-in any stone-chips...
    ditto...

    On an MOT, to adjust the lights or to fit new wiper blades so that the
    vehicle passes the test... well it takes a couple of minutes, same
    with most bulb replacements... The customer would have to do it
    anyway... The cost of the blades or bulbs will be passed on and
    customers will be happy that you have done it... And the MOT
    checkers/officials will allow you to do that, legally, fact... They
    aren't generally jobsworth nazi's... IME...

    This is not the same as prepping, priming and painting an extra
    panel... never mind sorting the blow lines and backrolls...

    You have to take a view...

    I work in a small bodyshop, has been in existance for 20 yrs... No
    advertising ever, we rely on repeat customers and word of mouth
    referal...
     
    Owen, Jun 16, 2005
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    frag Guest

    Beav scribbled:
    You obviously don't.

    1. Doing little favours means they're incorporated into a bigger job,
    so you still make money, not "blowing in a wing for some geezer who
    walks in with it under his arm".
    2. Nothing you've said anywhere indicates you understand the power of
    keeping a customer happy, and by that I don't mean doing the job to
    cost, on time, and to a reasonable finish. Everyone likes to think they
    got that little bit of "personalised" service, or a bargain. That will
    make a lot more of an impression in their mind than just "doing the
    job". And lets face it, adjusting a headlamp aim would take less time
    than going for a piss or drinking a cuppa.
    3. If you think all small garage owners are skint you're very wrong.
    4. If you think all small garages are "shithouses" you're also wrong.

    Basically from what you've said you don't know any other business
    models other than the "impersonal, faceless, inflexible, medium/large
    organisation that puts profit before everything else".

    Please don't say you understand a garage like my dads, cause you've got
    it way wrong already. "shithouse"? "work for **** all"?

    Odd that "**** all" paid for a nice house, 2 cars, couple of bikes,
    sisters wedding, buying a large shop outright. And a "shithouse" was
    busy with happy customers.
    Brick wall, meet head...

    Lets just agree that there's still room for both styles of garage, and
    neither one will be short of customers. (but of course people that
    emulate either style and give shit service one way or the other deserve
    to die)
     
    frag, Jun 17, 2005
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