Old fashioned bike dealers

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Champ, Jun 14, 2005.

  1. Champ

    Champ Guest

    There's plenty of waxing lyrical about old fashioned dealers on here,
    but I'm here to tell you that not only are things not what they used
    to be, they never were.

    There's a small bike shop near where I live. Old fashioned, cramped,
    premises, little workshop you have to ride down an alley to get to,
    you know the picture. I never go in there cos it's just a Honda
    dealer, but it's dead close to where I live now, and is an MOT
    station, and I needed an MOT on the gixxer.

    So, I dropped it in Saturday morning, and went back an hour later as
    requested to collect it, and was presented with a fail certificate.

    Now, my gixxer is pretty scruffy - tape all down one side, and scrapes
    down the other. The rear brake pedal has a bend in it. But,
    everything works. However it failed on:
    - small number plate
    - wheels out of line
    - bent brake pedal.

    I was also "advised" that the chain was too loose

    I remonstrated with the tester - the brake pedal may be bent, but it's
    still right underneath your right foot. And the rear wheel was lined
    up by the marks on the swing arm, which the tester said you couldn't
    trust. Now, I know they're often a little in accurate, and also can't
    be trusted on a bike that's bent, but what else is a chap meant to do.
    The tester also told me that "as the number plate is a new part of the
    test from July, we're counting it from now".

    So, I took the bike home, and took the mole grips to the brake lever,
    expecting it to snap. But it didn't! I pulled the rear wheel out,
    checked it, and put it back in as it had been. The chain tension was
    bang on - the old boy probably didn't realise that sports bikes need a
    decent amount of play in the chain. And I put the original big plate
    back on. And took the bike back for a re-test.

    The chap in the workshop was happy to quickly check the failure points
    - he seemed pleased with the number plate and the brake lever. And
    then I say his wheel alignment technique - a small 6 volt battery
    wedged against each side of each tyre, and a bit of angle iron
    balanced on top. He said "it's still a bit out, but it's much better
    now".

    So, I took it home, changed the plate back and resolved not to go back
    there again.
     
    Champ, Jun 14, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    The same sort of experience I had with my bikes in the same sort of
    shop, even down to the wheel alignment game. :)
     
    Muck, Jun 14, 2005
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    flash Guest

    I had a chain put on by my local bike shop that was (a) Too long and (b) had
    a split link when I wanted it rivited.

    Took the bike back to get them to remove a link and fit a soft link.

    Picked it up, told all ok now.

    Get home, go to oil chain and found ..

    ...

    ..
    ..
    ..
    ..
    ...

    ...

    Two split links!
     
    flash, Jun 14, 2005
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  4. Champ

    Martin Guest

    I had a fail in a similar type place for that one, the tester used the
    axle nuts and one eye squinting down from above to proclaim the wheel
    was squint. He wouldn't let me adjust it there and then as he was too
    busy drinking his tea.
    Widely varied approach from many places on this front noone is ever happy.
    Two long straight things, 4 plastic boxes, a ruler and a means of
    holding your bike vertical whilst guddling about with spanners and rulers.
    What an utter ****, surely this would be grounds for an appeal if you
    could be arsed.
    It will secretly wait until you are least expecting it and most likely
    to drop the bike in a comedy fashion before snapping.

    [snip]
    And here is the reason for the demise of the small back street bike garage.

    The chap I took mine too would only MOT bikes up to 250cc which was odd.

    --
    Martin:
    "For a minute there, you bored me to death."
    VTR1000 Firestorm
    TDR250 http://ukrm.net/BIKES/Yamaha/tdr250.html
    martin dot smith nine zero three at ntlworld dot com
     
    Martin, Jun 14, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    ^^^ ^^^^^^

    what, that they're a bit shit?

    Good riddance.
     
    darsy, Jun 14, 2005
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    Eddie Guest

    Something to do with some of his testing equipment (brake tester,
    perhaps) only being rated up to a certain weight?
     
    Eddie, Jun 14, 2005
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    Martin Guest

    Yep, smelly old dirty men in wellies smoking roll-ups and drinking tea.
    To bad rubbish.

    --
    Martin:
    "For a minute there, you bored me to death."
    VTR1000 Firestorm
    TDR250 http://ukrm.net/BIKES/Yamaha/tdr250.html
    martin dot smith nine zero three at ntlworld dot com
     
    Martin, Jun 14, 2005
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  8. Champ

    Martin Guest

    What's a spring balance then?

    [snip]
    --
    Martin:
    "For a minute there, you bored me to death."
    VTR1000 Firestorm
    TDR250 http://ukrm.net/BIKES/Yamaha/tdr250.html
    martin dot smith nine zero three at ntlworld dot com
     
    Martin, Jun 14, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    Y'see, that I'd have been more than happy with.
     
    Champ, Jun 14, 2005
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    Champ Guest

    Well, tester chappie didn't even have the bike properly upright - he
    just had a block under the sidestand to bring it a bit more vertical.
     
    Champ, Jun 14, 2005
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    Martin Guest

    Says it all really dunnit. Bunch of muppets. It'll be like the MOT
    testers who fail cars on headlight aim and then charge 15ukp to "fix"
    it, usually a tactic used on the naieve and vulnerable.

    --
    Martin:
    "For a minute there, you bored me to death."
    VTR1000 Firestorm
    TDR250 http://ukrm.net/BIKES/Yamaha/tdr250.html
    martin dot smith nine zero three at ntlworld dot com
     
    Martin, Jun 14, 2005
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  12. Champ

    Martin Guest

    Hmmm, his brake testing equipment was to run the bike up and down the
    pavement then pull on the brakes, which could be the indicator. Anyone
    in Glasgow will know them it's the one in shawbridge arcade.

    --
    Martin:
    "For a minute there, you bored me to death."
    VTR1000 Firestorm
    TDR250 http://ukrm.net/BIKES/Yamaha/tdr250.html
    martin dot smith nine zero three at ntlworld dot com
     
    Martin, Jun 14, 2005
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    YTC#1 Guest

    <snip>

    I take mine to a push bike shop, yep you read that right. The front is
    all dedicated to push bikes, but the rear is a fully kitted out bike MOT
    station, with brake testing (proper rolling road) and headlight alignment
    machines. And yes they even use proper wheel alignment kit.

    They usually do minor adjustments for me or allow me to do it.
    Just two guys who are big bike fans. But deal in push bikes.
     
    YTC#1, Jun 14, 2005
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    HooDooWitch Guest

    <snip>

    How much is an MOT these days? Mine's due at the end of the week -
    better book something.
     
    HooDooWitch, Jun 14, 2005
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  15. If I get my bike out of storage in time, that's where mine will be
    going. He used to have a name for being very strict with Hondas, which
    I'm sure was unrelated to the Honda franchise he had at the time.
     
    Higgins not @ Work, Jun 14, 2005
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    Steve Parry Guest


    summat that attempts to drag the bike forward, which the brakes have to
    resist

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    Steve Parry
    K100RS SE & F650
    and a 520i SE Touring for comfort

    (not forgetting the SK90PY)

    http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk
     
    Steve Parry, Jun 14, 2005
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    flash Guest

    Tradiationally you sit and the bike and the tester asks you to apply each of
    the brakes seperately whilst he winches the bike forward.

    Equally traditionally you apply both brakes together in an attempt to muster
    a pass.
     
    flash, Jun 14, 2005
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  18. Champ

    Champ Guest

    £15.50.

    About to go up a lot, apparently.
     
    Champ, Jun 14, 2005
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    Martin Guest

    What a novel contraption that must be, thanks.



    --
    Martin:
    "For a minute there, you bored me to death."
    VTR1000 Firestorm
    TDR250 http://ukrm.net/BIKES/Yamaha/tdr250.html
    martin dot smith nine zero three at ntlworld dot com
     
    Martin, Jun 14, 2005
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    HooDooWitch Guest

    Just booked one for next Monday - £15.55 ... That *is* a hefty price
    hike!
     
    HooDooWitch, Jun 14, 2005
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