Ok - What's causing this then?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Christofire, Sep 19, 2004.

  1. Christofire

    Christofire Guest

    This has happened twice now, so it's not a frequent thing, but I'd
    rather know now than when I'm left high and dry. Twice, I've gone to
    start the 955i and had all the electrics seemingly die on me. Some
    fiddling with the igntion key and alarm sorts it out, but what's going
    on?

    Normal:
    When I go to start the bike I disarm the alarm, turn the ignition on.
    The appropriate lights on the dash light up. I pull the clutch in,
    then press the starter button. Bike turns over 2-3 times then fires.
    All is well.

    Odd:
    As above, but when I press the start button there's a clicking noise
    instead of a starting bike noise and the lights on the dash go out.
    Turning the ignition off and on doesn't make any difference. Last time
    it happened I let the alarm set itself, then unset it and all was well.

    To me, it's the immobiliser being a bit keen. Anyone else got any
    other theories? BTW, I've checked the kill switch, it's set to run.

    TIA.
     
    Christofire, Sep 19, 2004
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  2. Christofire

    Ginge Guest

    Poor earth either on the engine itself, or the starter motor.
     
    Ginge, Sep 19, 2004
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  3. Christofire

    Robbo Guest

    Bad Earth on battery
    Bad Connections on starter solenoid
    Dodgy ignition cable connector
    Bad connector at alarm power feed
    Bad earth at alarm power connection


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    Robbo, Sep 19, 2004
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  4. Christofire

    Muck Guest

    ^^^^^
    <snip>

    I think this may be your problem.
     
    Muck, Sep 19, 2004
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  5. Christofire

    Porl Guest

    I didn't have time to fully read your question but my advice is to try
    looking round the bend and chasing the vanishing point. Most inexperienced
    riders can get caught out by concentrating on the patch of road in front of
    them. Remember: slow in, fast out. And don't be tempted to ride outside your
    abilities trying to keep up with faster, more experienced friends. Above
    all, have fun. The worst that can hapen is that you're horribly mangled and
    live the rest of your life in a wheelchair with a dripfeed. What do you
    think about those pro-hunt protesters eh? It they'd had their way in '43
    we'd all be speaking German.
     
    Porl, Sep 19, 2004
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  6. Others have given you lots of good advice and things to check, but I
    will add this:
    Get the battery checked out.
    Modern batteries show few signs of failing before they pop their clogs
    in a terminal way ;-)
    One of those signs is as you describe above.
    If your battery is over 2 years old, put a new one in, keep the old
    one as stock, on an optimate, especially as the colder nights are
    getting here now.

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    Colonel Tupperware, Sep 19, 2004
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    'Hog Guest

    I got rid of my Daytona because of electrical woes. No really.
    Buy a Gixxer 1000

    Mine has flat (drag) bars on it today for a change.
     
    'Hog, Sep 19, 2004
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  8. Christofire

    Christofire Guest

    Not you as well. I've already had Monz chanting "buy a gixxer thou" at
    me.
     
    Christofire, Sep 20, 2004
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  9. Christofire

    Christofire Guest

    So far it's only happened at standstill. I've ridden over some very
    bumpy roads since the first occurence but never had the bike cut out on
    the move.
     
    Christofire, Sep 20, 2004
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  10. Christofire

    Christofire Guest

    Check on point 1 - I always turn the lights off as that's usually the
    second most work it does, no?

    I think the battery is ok - the lights stay on quite brightly and they
    don't dim very much when the indicators flash when stopped[1].

    I suppose I'll have to get a multimeter. Ta for the help (to everyone).

    [1] Every bike I've had has done this, the daytona the least of the lot.
     
    Christofire, Sep 20, 2004
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  11. Christofire

    'Hog Guest

    Well not a brand new £yumpty one obviously. Mugs game that...
     
    'Hog, Sep 20, 2004
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  12. Christofire

    Ben Guest

    I know where a very nice example is for sale at a very reasonable
    price to a fellow ukrmer....
     
    Ben, Sep 20, 2004
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  13. Christofire

    Christofire Guest

    Shutupshutupshutup.

    <tempted>

    Actually, when there was the CIHAGM thing at EOSM I realised as soon as
    I set off home that I was on the bike I liked best. The only reason I
    want a gsxr-thou is that a set of Renthall bars for said bike comes
    with a wheelie dial, not a throttle. It'll end in tears/jail/hospital.

    I wonder how much it would be to change my policy...
     
    Christofire, Sep 20, 2004
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  14. Christofire

    Ginge Guest

    I enjoyed riding a gixxer thou, but in hindsight it made things *too*
    easy. I think another year on the ZRX will improve my riding more than
    having a bike loads better than me.

    I quite fancy one of the last carbed CBR600's as a lightweight
    alternative though.... or perhaps a lardy 9R sports-tourer in C2 guise.
     
    Ginge, Sep 21, 2004
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  15. Christofire

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Are there three sportsbikes less alike than these three?
     
    Ben Blaney, Sep 21, 2004
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  16. Christofire

    Ginge Guest

    In terms of riding comfort, plenty are.
     
    Ginge, Sep 21, 2004
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  17. Christofire

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Okay, in one particular area. But I can't believe that you can't make
    up your mind between these three bikes - because they *are* very
    different. Do you want an unremarkable, out-dated 600cc bike, or a
    powerful but large out-dated 900cc bike, or a nimble and powerful
    1000cc bike?
     
    Ben Blaney, Sep 21, 2004
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  18. Christofire

    Ginge Guest

    Well, I can't afford the last option any time soon, so let's ignore
    that. The other 2 bikes are both selling for around 2K, bearing in mind
    I'm no Valentino Rossi they would offer all I need from a more sporty
    bike.

    In order of preference, I'm looking for: A fairing, comfort, reasonable
    handling, 150MPH engine.

    Beyond that I don't actually believe it matters what bike I end up
    buying, so long as I'm not uncomfortable on it.
     
    Ginge, Sep 21, 2004
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  19. Christofire

    'Hog Guest

    Hmm well I had bar risers welded to the top yoke of my Daytona and fitted
    Jota bars. I'm sure the ABM crew who make the Gixxer conversion will do one
    for yours.
     
    'Hog, Sep 21, 2004
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  20. Christofire

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Ignore the last and you can get a Gower-esque GS500.
     
    Ben Blaney, Sep 21, 2004
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