OK, we're stuck :-/

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Ginge, Dec 21, 2003.

  1. Ginge

    Ginge Guest

    Check the sidestand switch.

    HTH
     
    Ginge, Dec 21, 2003
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    Donegal Paul Guest

    Right, me and petrolcan have had a fiddle with the CB350s tonight and so far

    Good spark on both plugs
    Petrol getting through definitely and yes theres petrol in the tank
    Feels like good compression at the exhaust end

    Still wouldnt start :-/ despite continual coaxing.
    The starter motors working, she just wont fire into life.

    Even tried to bump her a coupla times, again no joy so the question is,
    anyone know what else it could be.

    There appears to be a clutch switch, ie i assume that it wont start unless
    its pulled in.
    We tried to bypass this but still no difference.

    Im wondering though about it, for those with these clutch switches, surely,
    if you didnt depress the lever, you wouldnt get anything out of the bike at
    all, ie no spark or attempt of the engine to kick over?

    Anyone out there know where to go from here?
     
    Donegal Paul, Dec 21, 2003
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    But he says he gets a good spark at the plugs. Or am I being thick?
     
    Colin Irvine, Dec 21, 2003
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    christofire Guest

    Fresh petrol? If the petrol is older than about three months it'll be
    hard for the engine to burn.
     
    christofire, Dec 21, 2003
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    tallbloke Guest

    No.

    Try heating the plugs up good and hot and screwing them back in.
     
    tallbloke, Dec 21, 2003
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    Donegal Paul Guest

    "Ginge" said to Donegal Paul
    Don't think its got one, none I could see anyway, i.e. no wiring etc
    anywhere near :-/
     
    Donegal Paul, Dec 21, 2003
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    Donegal Paul Guest

    "Colin Irvine" says to Ginge
    Nope, good spark to both cylinders. Which I would have thought negated the
    sidestand switch option?
     
    Donegal Paul, Dec 21, 2003
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    Donegal Paul Guest

    "christofire" said to Donegal Paul
    Not that Im doubting you but can petrol "go off"?
     
    Donegal Paul, Dec 21, 2003
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    mb Guest

    ...and it can gum up your carbs. You *did* clean the carb(s), didn't you?
     
    mb, Dec 21, 2003
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    Pip Guest

    Yes. Many times has this been experienced by posters here - bloody
    bike won't go - and it won't go. So they drain the tank, refill with
    a gallon of fresh fuel and as soon as it gets to the carbs - briiingg!

    Go do it, Paul.
     
    Pip, Dec 21, 2003
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    deadmail Guest


    If you've got petrol, compression and a spark then surely the only thing
    that can be wrong is that if the spark is at the wrong time?

    Is it coughing at all like it's about to start? ... check if there's
    anyway the plug caps could have been switched around. Or maybe the
    timing's slipped?
     
    deadmail, Dec 21, 2003
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    Donegal Paul Guest

    "mb" said to"Donegal Paul" who said
    Nope, but mainly cos I wanted to check the other, more straightforward stuff
    first.
     
    Donegal Paul, Dec 21, 2003
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    Donegal Paul Guest

    "Pip" said to "Donegal Paul"who wrote:> >
    Last time ill listen to pc :) too cold now and pizzas on the way, job for
    tomorrow then :)
     
    Donegal Paul, Dec 21, 2003
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    Donegal Paul Guest

    I did wonder about timing etc.
    Nope not even a tickly cough :-(
    Ill try the draining and refilling of the tank tomorrow and double check the
    leads aint been switched too
     
    Donegal Paul, Dec 21, 2003
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    etb Guest

    BUT you have a spark ?
    You have a spark. So NO.
    So if you have

    1. A spark

    2. Wet plugs ( the petrol is getting through? )

    3. The plug caps on the correct plugs.

    4. The timing correct

    5. Compression

    6. It will start or try to.

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    etb, Dec 21, 2003
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    mb Guest

    If the petrol is old and the carbs are dirty, then I don't think you're
    going to get the bike going.
     
    mb, Dec 21, 2003
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    flashgorman Guest

    How long have you tried turning it over for? If its been stood a good while
    then it may take *forever* to start. I would put some fresh pertol in - as
    others have said - hook it up to a decent battery, or some jump leads and
    keep turning it over.
     
    flashgorman, Dec 21, 2003
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    deadmail Guest

    Don't waste it all on the bike.

    You wanna save some for yourselves... It's ether IIRC.
     
    deadmail, Dec 21, 2003
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    Mark Olson Guest

    As DP has admitted to failing to clean the undoubtedly filthy carbs,
    worrying about the petrol is a waste of time. Fresh petrol *and*
    clean carbs is the answer. The pilot jets are almost certainly
    clogged.
     
    Mark Olson, Dec 21, 2003
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    christofire Guest

    As Pip says, yes. Think of it as all the potent explodey bits in the
    petrol are really excited, so they evaoprate first.

    I've seen this personally, where a bike wouldn't run, the petrol was
    changed and then it did. The petrol is still very flammable though, so
    play pyromaniac with the usual precautions.
     
    christofire, Dec 21, 2003
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