Oil, oil, everywhere.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Nigel Eaton, Dec 31, 2004.

  1. Nigel Eaton

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Bugger.

    Top tip. When you pull the drain plug from a hot Z1300 lump, it dumps
    all 5.9 litres out very quickly.

    Much more quickly than one of those nifty drain cans can take it in.

    Still, nearly half of it went in the can, so it could have been worse...

    At least I've found a use for some of the spare cement from the Great
    Garage Base Laying.

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    Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Dec 31, 2004
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    tallbloke Guest

    Screwing the filler plug back in would have slowed it down a bit.
     
    tallbloke, Dec 31, 2004
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  3. Nigel Eaton

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, tallbloke
    What, the one that I'd dropped into the hot oil?

    Yeah, you're probably right. :^(

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    Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Dec 31, 2004
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  4. Nigel Eaton

    Muck Guest

    Heh.. btdt. :) The thing to have, is some sort of valve instead of a
    plug.... maybe.
     
    Muck, Dec 31, 2004
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  5. Nigel Eaton

    tallbloke Guest

    The filler plug, not the sump plug you muppet!

    Happy new year Nigel :)
     
    tallbloke, Jan 1, 2005
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  6. Nigel Eaton

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, tallbloke
    Ah. Manamanah...

    Funnily enough, that was still in place. It really caught me by surprise
    just how quickly it dumped the sump (as it were). Reminded me of India,
    it did.
    And to you mate.

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    Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Jan 1, 2005
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    Nigel Eaton was seen penning the following ode to ... whatever:
    I've tried a few of those and they were all shite. Currently using an
    old oil can with the side cut away - works rather better.

    Mind ewe, Frost supposedly has some that actually work.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 1, 2005
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    sweller Guest

    Washing up bowl is the daddy.

    Although I had to use an old oil can on one of my vehicles (Hillman Imp
    IIRC) as the bowl wouldn't fot under the sump
     
    sweller, Jan 1, 2005
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    Lozzo Guest

    sweller says...
    I have a large capacity but quite flat proper drain tray. I think it
    holds 10 litres. Fits under a bike quite easily and doesn't spill a
    drop. IIRC it cost me about 7 quid a few years back.
     
    Lozzo, Jan 1, 2005
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  10. That's what I use as well, lined with a black bin liner.
     
    Whinging Courier, Jan 1, 2005
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  11. Nigel Eaton

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Whinging Courier
    I've got one that I've used before, but this drain can normally works
    well. I've just never seen oil drain so fast from a sump.

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    Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Jan 1, 2005
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  12. Nigel Eaton

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Bear
    Heh. I've got an old bathtub around somewhere...

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    Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Jan 1, 2005
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  13. Nigel Eaton

    Pip Guest

    I heartily condone the use of old oil cans. However, meine kleine
    Teutonic vehicle saboteur, you seem to have omitted to note a basic
    fact above ... bike oil comes in 4 (four) litre containers. Nigel's
    mighty Z1300 engine, as stated above, contains 5.9 (five-point-nine
    (like nearly fucking SIX)) litres of smoking hot and very runny oil.

    You may be aware of a disparity at this point, hmm?

    Use of an old can/bottle/container, although laudable, green and
    recycling friendly - not to mention the wide and capacious orifice
    capable of capturing even the widest and most violently-ejected stream
    of hot smelly and runny foul ole oil ... would still leave BlingBloke
    looking at a steaming puddle of nigh-on two litres of used semi-synth
    on the deck.

    I can only comment on this using these terms with the benefit of 20/20
    hindsight, having used an old 5-litre can to drain my old Renault -
    then as it was draining, read the manual which told me, at that
    precise moment, that the sump held 6.2 litres. Plus, of course, on
    this occasion, a litre of flushing oil too.
    This therefore deserves a BT,DT,GTFOilyShirt.
     
    Pip, Jan 1, 2005
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    joe parkin Guest

    Why did you put the flushing oil in to mix with the old oil? I thought
    the whole point was to clean it out after all the old oil had drained
    out?
     
    joe parkin, Jan 1, 2005
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  15. Nigel Eaton

    Pip Guest

    'Cos that what it said to do on the side of the (one-litre) bottle:
    Bring engine up to operating temperature (ensure the radiator fan cuts
    in); add the litre of flushing oil; allow to circulate for five
    minutes with the engine idling but not under load; cut engine; drain
    oil.
    The antique flushing oil, the real stuff, used to be used like that:
    drain the old gunk, fill with flushing oil, drain and refill with new.

    The 'modern' way is to add a litre of highly-detergent "oil"
    to the old oil and cut a step out, effectively. I wouldn't normally
    have done it but the old oil looked elderly, to say the least.
     
    Pip, Jan 1, 2005
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    joe parkin Guest

    ****, I've been insulted nicely, I think.
    Shows how long it is since I've drained the oil, shuffles off to find
    the manual
     
    joe parkin, Jan 1, 2005
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  17. Nigel Eaton

    Salad Dodger Guest

    So, how come Nigel's rancid old shit-box of a Kazakh disco needs six
    litres, when God's Own Motorcycle only needs three point seven?
    --
    | ___ Salad Dodger
    |/ \
    _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/KH500A8/TS250C
    |_\_____/_| ..73063../..17250.../..3180./.19406
    (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 YTC#4 PM#5
    |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 two#11 WG*
    \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4
    \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4
    '^'
     
    Salad Dodger, Jan 1, 2005
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  18. Because the very first Zed Thirteens had a slight reputation for blowing
    their bottom ends in spectacular fashion.

    Kawasaki's recommended fix was to increase the amount of oil in the lump
    by a litre or two.

    At least, that's how I remember it from the time. Lozzo may be able to
    confirm.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 1, 2005
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  19. Nigel Eaton

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Salad Dodger
    Because the weedy lump they stick (as an afterthought) into the GL1500
    is so under-powered that it needs less oil than a decent lawnmower. They
    also have to take account of the fact that the average GL1500 owner is
    so limp-wristed that picking up a container with six litres of used oil
    would involve Getting A Man In.

    In other I have unclogged the air-dirtier (it no longer qualified
    as a filter) and looked in bemusement at six shiny, new, beautiful,
    wrong spark-plugs.

    (sigh)

    Wonder if I'll be able to get any of the right ones tomorrow?

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    Nigel - Manufacturer of the "Champion-105" range of rearsets

    WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
    ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
    Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"
     
    Nigel Eaton, Jan 1, 2005
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  20. A decent bin liner won't melt with hot oil in it and you can then put
    the squelch into a cardboard box and take it to your local oil recycling
    place. I don't have an oil recycling place and just put the bag in the
    dustbin.
     
    Whinging Courier, Jan 1, 2005
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