Oi Blaney.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by steve auvache, Jul 7, 2004.

  1. steve auvache

    K Olley Guest

    The main problem used to be the lack of feedback from plod, unless you
    see them and ask the right questions no one hears anything, because of
    this no one was bothering to report anything.

    All I have done is ask and then passed on to those that are
    interested[1] some very basic info, no names or pack drill, just minor
    details like they nicked someone for X or someones gone away for Y.

    This has resulted in more info flowing back and forth and more phone
    calls being made, both to local law and one or two others that have
    excess time available.

    The local plod have been a great help, but not always in the way that
    they intend:)

    Some bikes have been recovered because they have been hidden whilst
    evading plod, some scroats have been caught whilst trying to evade non
    plod and run straight into local law. some have been followed and
    caught by police helicopter after pissing off a copper or two.

    Funnily enough the law were very slow to respond when a freshly stolen
    bike was spotted in one back garden and a dozen of the owners mates
    recovered it with force.

    I walk my dogs regularly and just keep my eyes open, I know where most
    of the scroats hiding places are and when they are not liable to be
    there, I also get info like that passed back to me by those that may
    see but are unable to do anything about it.

    In the last few months everything has just seemed to fall into place,
    if some scroat starts anything he knows that there is a high
    probability he will be seen and dealt with, so they seem to have taken
    their troubles elsewhere.


    [1] its mainly the regular dog walkers and elder folk, those that are
    around on a regular basis but are not nessisarily able to defend
    themselves, care has to be taken so that suspicion does not fall on
    them, but they are good sources of info and with the right incentive
    they will make the right phone calls.


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    Kevin - Basildon
    XV535
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    K Olley, Jul 9, 2004
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  2. steve auvache

    K Olley Guest

    You got to keep something in reserve.

    <checks shed>

    Old lorry ropes hanging up behind door:)


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    Kevin - Basildon
    XV535
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    BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23
    OSOS#29
     
    K Olley, Jul 9, 2004
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  3. <snip
    Bloody well done, that man.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 9, 2004
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  4. steve auvache

    platypus Guest

    I'm reminded of the scene from The Long Good Friday where Bob has all the
    local villains hung upside down on hooks...

    http://www.whom.co.uk/jgf/lgf_chiller.jpg
     
    platypus, Jul 9, 2004
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  5. Lozzo wrote
    It could be they have something more important to do.

    Vis: The dark blue cars and matching aerial accessories which I saw this
    evening not more than a hundred yards from where the bike was nicked who
    were being busy trying to catch what was described to me as an, "armed
    nutter." A mate of the one they had in the car already.

    And, "No they weren't going to ask the bloke driving the helicopter if
    he minded giving me a go for a bit so I could look for the Benly."


    The Benly may have been seen though.

    I was round at Em's house tonight and a neighbour knocked and asked if a
    red bike with a blue tank was anything to do with us. The story goes
    that he had seen it when parked there before and yesterday he saw what
    looked, to him, like a very similar bike being wheeled down the street
    by kids towards the park. Nice man.

    This being the case and if it is not yet in the lake we have a better
    clue of where it is not likely to be stored.

    And I may owe a couple of possibly innocent in this instance scrotes an
    apology for blackening their good name.
     
    steve auvache, Jul 10, 2004
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  6. The Older Gentleman wrote
    I think Mr Honda deserves some as well.
     
    steve auvache, Jul 10, 2004
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  7. steve auvache

    K Olley Guest

    The heavy mob, I should be seeing a couple of them in a few weeks, in
    their spare time they ride the country attending bike rallys.
    3 times within the last year it has been used over the park area.
    never asked why it has been called in but have heard of the results.
    If you find out shout, phone no's in the book.


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    Kevin - Basildon
    XV535
    GPZ305 (her's)
    BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23
    OSOS#29
     
    K Olley, Jul 10, 2004
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  8. steve auvache

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Because when all's said and done, it's only a few stolen motorcycles.
    When the police force is stretched - as most coppers will tell you that
    it is - they need to prioritise. Seems perfectly reasonable to me. I'd
    rather they catch rapists and murderers than kids nicking wanky old
    bikes.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jul 10, 2004
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  9. steve auvache

    Ben Blaney Guest

    Ask yourself who else but me would choose a claret and blue colour
    scheme for a Benly. (I don't believe Sir Trevor is a motorcyclist.)
     
    Ben Blaney, Jul 10, 2004
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  10. steve auvache

    Ben Blaney Guest

    You've just been the custodian for a while!

    I should have a better idea of potential dates soon. I'm just sorting
    an office move, and when I know by how much I'm going to miss the
    (unrealistic, customer-determined) deadline, I'll know when I can hop
    a flight up to your gaff.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jul 10, 2004
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  11. steve auvache

    sweller Guest

    AOL. There's something about the music in it too.

    Only a couple more viewings and I can confidently obsess about that one's
    dialogue too.
     
    sweller, Jul 10, 2004
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  12. steve auvache

    Ben Blaney Guest

    I don't see the causal relationship.
    The number of "bobbies on the beat" has next to no effect on crime
    rates. But the general public /thinks/ it does, so the politicians
    lob out soundbites. As discussed yesterday: we get the politicians we
    deserve.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jul 10, 2004
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  13. steve auvache

    K Olley Guest

    That depends on your viewpoint, most of what the scroats are doing
    broken down into individual crimes is minor.

    The total effect of what they are doing is not so minor.

    The total cost to the community both in hardship and pounds shillings
    and pence can be high as well.

    Some of what they are doing has got potential serious risks.

    On just the wanky old bikes side of things, do you let them carry on
    and only try to catch the ones that injurer or kill others, and yes
    both have happened locally, or do you try to prevent it before it
    happens?

    As for your rapists and murderers, the more kids that grow up with a
    total disregard to others and authority the greater the number of
    these crimes will be commited.

    The greater the trust that the general public has in the police the
    more chance that these crimes that are committed will be solved.


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    Kevin - Basildon
    XV535
    GPZ305 (her's)
    BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23
    OSOS#29
     
    K Olley, Jul 10, 2004
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  14. steve auvache

    Ben Blaney Guest

    I don't see the link. And nor does the British Crime Survey.
    Again, this isn't necessarily so.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jul 10, 2004
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  15. steve auvache

    ogden Guest

    Jesus, man. Move to a bit of London that isn't a complete shithole!
    I used to live within spitting distance of the South Acton estate
    (aka Mandela House) and the only, and I mean only, thing that ever
    caused me trouble was my ZXR being nicked from outside my house.
     
    ogden, Jul 10, 2004
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  16. steve auvache

    Ben Blaney Guest

    That's not what you said.

    Because the police are too busy to control teenagers nicking
    motorbikes, doesn't mean that more people have homicidal tendancies.
    Can you cite the research that disproves it?
     
    Ben Blaney, Jul 10, 2004
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  17. steve auvache

    K Olley Guest

    Survey's are like statistics, it depends on who commissions them, what
    the commissioning agents objectives are, whether the people doing them
    want other work afterwards and what baseline definitions they apply to
    the initial data that they use.


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    Kevin - Basildon
    XV535
    GPZ305 (her's)
    BOTAFOT#67 BOTAFOF#23
    OSOS#29
     
    K Olley, Jul 10, 2004
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  18. steve auvache

    Ben Blaney Guest

    The BCS is independent.
     
    Ben Blaney, Jul 10, 2004
    #58
  19. "Going out like a raspberry ripple..."

    I saw it when it was first released by Handmade Films in the early
    1980s. I think the TV versions are toned down slightly - I remember the
    "bottling" scene as being very nasty.

    Truly brilliant gangster movie, in the best Brit traditions. And
    frighteningly prescient in what it said about Docklands and the business
    of redeveloping the place, bent officials and all.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 10, 2004
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  20. I think I do, sort of. If you get an area where petty crime is,
    effectively, tolerated (if not actually condoned), then it's likely that
    the scumbags will move fuurther up the nastiness ladder.

    Or down, IYSWIM.

    Either way, they reckon they can get away with it, and push the envelope
    further.

    Whether that includes murders and rapes - I might agree with you here. I
    can't see a sausal relationship between nicking a bike and rape. Except
    that, again, the rapist might think he has a better chance of getting
    away with it in such an area.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jul 10, 2004
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