Oh bollocks . . . .

SP said...

Doesn't surprise me in the least.

My sister and her horse fell whilst eventing, the horse rolled over her,
and got to it's feet. As it did so it kicked her on the side of the jaw,
knocking her sideways.

She was lay dazed and concussed as the St Johns people came over. One of
them took her hand went "Up you come" and pulled her to her feet. She
has suffered from a variety of spinal problems since. I don't blame them
on the St Johns people, as they may have all happened anyway, but it was
a fucking stupid thing for them to have done.

 

That'll do me squire, no-ones bothered to explain CPR like that before,
and tbh it's not something I've thought about either. I got the
impression CPR was there to bring them back to life, like Casualty or
summat.

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Unfortunately, Snowy isn't provided on the course, but a mannequin
called Annie is.

That probably doesn't hold the same appeal to you men though..

Heh.

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This is UKRM - it could take weeks...

This is UKRM....

 

Does it have tits?

See above.

 

That's the bugger - I'd forgotten the 'pull the helmet apart while removing
it' thing. Ta.

 

Too bad, Annie is a right munter and she doesn't have any legs.
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The courses that are the most worthwhile, in terms of
benefit-per-time-spent, are the emergency first aid ones - not for the
'little finger lost in a mincing machine' type accidents, but the ones
where, if you don't do something, the casualty _is_ going to die. That's
what I try to keep myself current on. Mr Mincing Machine has plenty of time
to sort himself out before he bleeds to death.

 

Should be expect a name change to SnowBear in the near future?

 

Mega Ding,

As summarised by a military paramedic describing *basic* first aid at
work. 'Forget all the bollox about making slings and pretty dressings,
just remember that blood is supposed to be inside, if it's leaking out
stop it. Humans are supposed to be breathing, if not try and remedy
it'

The recent courses I've done have concentrated on the DR ABC approach
http://www.teachpe.com/multi/dr_abc.htm

Although it has to be said that if there's a cardiac arrest then CPR
is unlikely to be effective and getting someone there with a jump
start kit is a good idea. So if your on your own in that situation
call for help first, if there's >1 potential rescuer the CPR + yell
for the cavalry.

 

If it makes you feel any better, some Ambulance staff keep a piece of
paper on them with other staff names on, warning that should 'such and
such' attend, then they don't want them to bother. Such a high regard
that some staff hold of their fellow Paramedics, obviously.

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Bear said...

Well, they go through some training, yes. StJA seems to be rather
lacking in the quality of their training.

It comes down to the training organisation. Some are good, some are not.
I don't know if there are regulations covering first aid training
organisations, all my training (since I left the boy scouts) has been
done by either paramedics or combat medics.

 

On Sun, 22 May 2005 21:34:44 +0100,

I may be - I got "battlefield first aid" training in the Oggies,
though it was a while back.

I know my ABCs, and pressure & elevation and all that, but apart from
Linda's kitchen related mishaps I've never had to put it into
practice.

I honestly don't know how I'd react in a situation like that.
Hopefully, I'll never find out.

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And despite a number of attempts over the years I've never got her
breathing.

Apprently resus annie was created by a chap who's daughter drowned,
urban mith maybe.

 

But is plod really first on scene? Who witnessed the incident and
called for him in the first place?

Something as simple as putting an unconscious casualty in the recovery
position can keep their tongue out of their throat and keep them alive.

By the time plod arrive you would expect the simple stuff, first aid,
to already be administered.

 

That Heimlich guy? Dunno.
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Heh. Me neither. It's quite interesting how knackering it is to do on
your own though. I'm really not sure how long I could keep going without
risking presenting an arriving paramedic with *two* victims.

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Heimlich was the abdominal thrust guy.

 

That's fair enough, I think many people do these courses for the wrong
reasons anyway. I let my First Aid at Work qualification lapse this
year as I didn't feel I was getting enough practice these days. Of
course it doesn't mean I instantly unremember everything I've learnt,
I'm just under less pressure to respond if someone does have an
accident at work.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, petrolcan

That was Richard O'Brien, wasn't it?

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