Oh bollocks . . . .

St. Johns Ambulance, you may find your employer runs a scheme so that
there is a certain percentage of trained first aiders on site.

Even so you may find you freeze, to my continuing shame just weeks
after an oxygen administration course when presented with a situation
where I *knew* what to do I did nothing for ~60 seconds only springing
into action when a passing GP asked if any one else had any training.

Mine dew in the situation you quote it would seem that only Jesus
could have saved the day.

 

LOL

You utter twat )

 

ISTR covering the Good Samaritan position in law school about 25 years
ago. Frightening that tat stuck in the memory and all the useful
(lucrative) stuff like Land Registration and Probate didn't.

Blimey. One of those rare occasions when I *know* I've not posted a
complete load of bollocks.

Who are the bluffers, then? Show of hands? Come on, you know who you
are....

 

The fucking sonofabitch ambo who wrenched my helmet off when I was lying
on the deck needs shooting. The total ****.

 

I'm still on cheap helmets until I learn to stay upright. Not worth
wasting the money, imho

 

I had to be quite vocal to the group of people who stopped off so that
they wouldn't take the helmet off. I didn't want to appear rude to
them, after all, they had stopped to assist, but thankfully someone
motorcycle riders who were in cars were quite active in stopping the
others from inflicting themselves upon my helmet. Bless 'em.

 

Heh. That's a point. Three crashes with a 300 quid helmet - you're right
- why throw money away?

 

http://www.paramedic.org.uk/news_archive/2003/09/News_Item.2003-09-17.29
43

Like the linke above, you mean? Well worth it...IIRC the fee used to
be ?75 for the course (tailored to bikers) but I got it for free as I
did the TT Marshalling First Aid w/e, that thankfully the Lancs
Ambulance service was providing the training for. The course this year
had the training provided for by the St. John Ambulance.

Now, I'm probably speaking out of term here, but I would much rather
have the training delivered by the AS than ths SJA, *especially* when
it comes to dealing with trauma and the removal of helmets in bike
accidents.

Perhaps we could see how much of a response there would be to UKRM
organising a training w/e for the bike first aid?

--
Lesley
CBR600FW
SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
BONY#54P BOB#18
Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally

 

On Sun, 22 May 2005 21:51:47 +0100,

One crash in a £100 helmet, then one can select a more gay looking
helmet. I currently sport a model that makes me look like a Mighty
Morphing Power Ranger. It was so crass that I *had* to buy it.

My next purchase will be a decent helmet though. Not that I plan to
NEED to replace my current helmet, of course...

 

I proposted the same thing and gave it half an hour and no one
replied, so I guess that's a no.

I'd be interested if the AS were doing it. SJA are mostly staffed by
do-gooders IMO.

 

There are 'guidelines' in place (called the Orcon standard) whereby an
Ambulance is required to attend the scene of an incident within 8
minutes in residential areas, and 14 minutes in rural areas.

Obviously having someone 'on scene' to tend to injuries before they
arrive is useful, especially when you consider how much traffic is on
the raods that prevent the Ambulances reaching their destination within
a reasonable amount of time.

Why is CPR unlikely to restart a heart? If that was the case, why
would the NHS put *all* their employees through a CPR course once a
year, and why would the Lancs AS have it as part of the First Bike on
Scene course?

--
Lesley
CBR600FW
SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
BONY#54P BOB#18
Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally

 

Like, having a pulse, you mean?

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Lesley
CBR600FW
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BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
BONY#54P BOB#18
Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, BGN

Oh, I don't know. It just need correct marketing:

"We need a volunteer victim. Snowy! Thank you. Right class, Snowy here
has been found unconscious, with no discernible pulse or respiration.
So, who'd like to start resuscitation?.."

Next week, dealing with crush injuries following a stampede.

--
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and Ducati Race Engineer.

WS* GHPOTHUF#24 APOSTLE#14 DLC#1 COFF#20 BOTAFOT#150 HYPO#0(KoTL) IbW#41
ZZR1100, Enfield 500 Curry House Racer "The Basmati Rice Burner",
Honda GL1000K2 (On its hols) Kawasaki ZN1300 Voyager "Oh, Oh, It's so big"

 

I have am 'trust issue' with St Johns. When I was activelly doing Judo
a lass fractured he leg at the knee. St Johns very kindly
re-positioned the leg to where it should be rather than securing the
good limb to the now-broken limb and let someone with more of a clue
replace the broken limb to it's rightful place. [1]

By the actions of SJA their was an artery that got trapped at the back
of the knee. The leg from the knee down was amputated 48 hours later.

[1] Which is probably why Lancs AS didn't attempt to replace my
fracture/dislocation, but let the consultant and medical staff sort
that out for me in hospital.

--
Lesley
CBR600FW
SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
BONY#54P BOB#18
Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally

 

First thing I did was to pull mine off and chuck it across the road.

Probably not the brightest thing to do, and not the best way to garner
sympathy, but it was the easiest way for me to check my legs were still
there.

 

That's cheap compared to the Lancs AS. I wouldn't mind doing that
actually and see how it compares to the training I received oop norf.

Do they do a section on the trauma side of things? As in, if you crash
at, say, 30mph, the combined speed of your internal organs hitting the
outer side of the body receives x amount of actual pressure that causes
trauma? I thought that side was a bit scary to think about.

--
Lesley
CBR600FW
SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
BONY#54P BOB#18
Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally

 

Yes, there is.

--
Lesley
CBR600FW
SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
BONY#54P BOB#18
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I remember the first time I was taught First Aid. I didn't think that
much of it, until I came across a situation, where I was as much use as
a chocolate tea-cup.

I went back to be retrained and even became a First Aid instructing
assistant for a short while.

Since then, whenever I've come across a situation, I get stuck in
straight away with confidence.

Mind you, I need to do a refresher course though.

 

I don't think it would be a good idea to hold something like that
before an *osm - it is actually a very draining course, there is a heck
of a lot to take in and it isn't there as an entertainment thing.

Aside from that, I fancy a refresher so if anyone else is interested
and we could book a day somewhere, then fine.

--
Lesley
CBR600FW
SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
BONY#54P BOB#18
Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally

 

SP said...

Because the usual problem is the heart goes into VF, you will not get
sinus rhythm back from that without shocking.

Because CPR provides an oxygen supply to the brain, keeping the patient
alive. You are trying to keep them alive, until they can be stabilised
by someone with the correct equipment.