Oh bollocks . . . .

Shit, that's harsh.

 

Thanks for that image <goes to scrub brain with bleach>

 

Sounds like the bloody stress of being messed around would be enough
to make you ill if you're not before.

 

I've since repeated the course as pert of another course IYSWIM. I
reckon I'd be OK in the circumstances I trained for and hopefully if
some daft old bugger keels over in a cafe again.

 

Yes, not a lot of fun.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, muddycat

Keep your pecker up mate, there are people in Rightpondia with their
fingers crossed on your behalf.

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and Ducati Race Engineer.

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Thanks man, much appreciated.

 

Quite right.

Fiona did a workplace one with the St. Johns and a four day course was
only about £200

<Googles>
They do one day courses for the public and even ones aimed specifically
at motorcyclists for about £30
http://www.sja.org.uk/training/courses/public/default.asp

BR gave me my training which I've used in anger on a number of occasions.
The railways don't seem to do it anymore.

 

I once restarted someone's heart and breathing and kept them going until
the ambulance arrived.

 

sweller said:

It was Sir.Tony wasn't it? You see? This is the danger of all this
training.

 

Not as horrific as just standing by watching, refusing to help, someone
trying to save an individual who'd had a heart attack and was covered in
blood or simply tutting when the fighting-drinking-bloke covered in vomit
is appearing to go blue.

The one that sticks in my mind (it wasn't me in this instance) is the
driver who after stemming the arterial blood of the lad who'd fallen
under a train was asked by a passenger when he expected to be getting on
with his job and taking the train out...

If you're as good as you think you are you won't make the wrong decisions
in those circumstances. It's quite easy, honestly.

 

You shouldn't have stopped it in the first place by letting them have a
go on that outfit.

 

Nice one. I did a quick Google and it seems that restarting the heart with
CPR is just 'unlikely' rather than 'very unlikely'. From
http://www.suslik.org/FirstAid/Resusc/resusc.html:

What are the chances of CPR restarting someone's heart by itself?
About 8% (1 in 12).

What are the chances of someone surviving a cardiac arrest if they are given
good CPR and are defibrillated by an ambulance crew within 10 minutes?

Between 30% and 40%.

 

Monkey says...

My eldest daughter's a very lucky girl then. She suffered a heart
attack after a car crash when she was 19, an off-duty male nurse
recognised the symptoms and gave her CPR until the ambulance arrived.
She was resuscitated once at the roadside and once again in hospital.
She underwent surgery to replace her aortic valve with a carbon fibre
one and has since made a slow but full recovery since.

 

not quite - lack of oxygen to the brain does that - which is kind of a
side effect of a stopped heart. Sounds pedantic, but I hope YSWIM.

CPR (Breathing and heart massage) replicates as close as possible what
the body does naturally, so yes, it's possible to keep someone going for
a while and they come out of it in pretty good shape.



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TS150 - squatting ~|~ V2300 - flat cap and rug

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...and the defence for open face lids rests.

 

Indeed - I've had basic first aid knowledge since I was a kid (Cubs,
Scouts etc) and then first aid in the workplace through St Johns or Red
Cross ever since.

I've lost count of the number of times I've used various methods learnt
with good effect - from CPR, to epileptic fits, cuts, burns, breaks
(mostly my own!) shock, sunstroke etc etc.

Even the smallest thing like knowing what info is useful to have running
through your mind when dialling 999.

A noble feat indeed. The only thing I would say to anyone who's
doing/done first aid, it to keep it up to date - things change, it's
good to know what's current(ish).

 

'tis a better thing to look like a mong than actually be one.

 

I think so.

 

So then, was the train delayed? Bloody typical.