Off to court we go ...

Or why, when coming home tonight, there was a "flood warning" sign but
not a "when coming round this blind bend in 50m time the road will be
one way and there will be traffic in your lane".

--
Gavin.

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There are two offences, Careless Driving and Dangerous Driving. DWDC&A
is Careless. Mine was a *lot* worse than that and all I got was a fine
and points (though they did try to give me a Peckham rolex) - it all
depends how the magistrates are on the day.

On the plus side, you can't go to jail for careless.

 

If I were him I'd take advice from my solicitor and ignore any waffle
posted on UKRM.

 

What would have been the point in that? It's not like you are or were a
known serial offender or committed what could be classed as an
anti-social behaviour type of crime?

It was a traffic offence, simple as that. OK, so it was a fucking
serious one, but putting a tag on you would have served no purpose
whatsoever.

The justice system in this country needs a fucking good kick up the
arse.

 

Depends on your perspective: maximum penalties are 11 points, 2 year ban
(without mandatory extended re-test) and/or a 2 grand fine. Plead guilty
and you knock a third off the maximum.

Being charged with careless can be shit, but when it means you're no
longer looking at dangerous (and worse), it can feel like all your
birthdays have come at once.

It may actually act as mitigation for you when sentenced. Really.

 

*ding* *DING*

I was thinking that very same.

--
Gavin.

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As I said at the time, I'd only be able to drive carelessly between the
hours of 7am and 7pm.

They'd have put me away if they'd had the option. As it was they tried
community service but the clerk had to remind them it wasn't an
available option for the offence.

Magistrates. Gotta love 'em.

 

Nige, dont hold back, say what you really think.

That sleep did you good then

--
Gavin.

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That's one I've asked but had no answer as yet. In the other direction there
is a warning sign but not in "my" direction. It was pointed out to me that
as I know the road such a sign is a moot point anyway. I then pointed out
that in probably hundreds of times I've been along it I've never before seen
a queue at that point.

--
Steve Parry
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07 VW Passat SE Estate for comfort
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ogden wrote:

<snip>

here are two offences, Careless Driving and Dangerous Driving. DWDC&A

Was I the only person that had to look that up? I'm at a bit of a
loss as to why they thought a Rolex was appropriate though.

 

What, and spoil all the fun! No, I can see it now, "Well, your honor,
Bear reckons you're a **** anyway, so shall we call it quits and
retire for a pint?"

 

If there was a 40mph limit, it was there for a reason. Not that I don't
break speed limits everywhere, but I read that as: "I was breaking the
speed limit, and when I came across an unexpected obstruction, I was
going to fast to stop or avoid it."

And I think the court might, as well.

As it was a 50 limit, then that's different.

Are you using an AA or RAC free brief? They provided one for me, many
moons ago, in a little matter of "in excess of 118mph". Didn't stop me
getting banned, but did get it down to one month.

 

"Pour encourager les autres"

 

Did it involve chips and gravy?

 

I had a careless driving (well it was called "driving without due care
and attention" at the time) in 1999. Got 4 points and 100 quid fine.

 

I stand corrected - I'd assumed that 'careless driving' was different
and attracted significantly more harsh penalties than 'driving without
due care and attention'.

 

Sit back safe in the knowledge that if they convict you it'll make it
easier for her to sue your arse off and you can split the money.

 

Ogden has the offence names correct. The punishments for careless are
quite wide ranging.

Mine was quite low because they were using it in lieu of a speeding
charge. I was done by two officers in a panda car that didn't have a
calibrated speedo. So they couldn't using speeding as they had no
proof and needed an opinion-based offence.

 

Agreed, it is, however, North Wales so any chance of rational
behaviour from Plod is non existent.

 

Well I'd never heard the phrase, but it seems pretty obvious what they are.
(Handcuffs?)

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