Off off off off?

So,

New to us, 99 Majesty 250 comes with Datatool System3 alarm. It seems
to work. I got a second fob (cheap) and program it up ok etc etc.

Fit new battery to bike last week sometime, go to start the bike
yesterday, click click buzzz click. Jump start it off the old battery
and away it goes first prod.

So, take new battery off to charge, alarm goes off but only for about
5 seconds? This suggests to me the internal alarm battery isn't
charging because it's duff (hence low capacity) and I wonder if it's
therefore drawing more current than it should (never reaching full
charge etc) killing the bike battery quicker than alarms generally do?

I could remove the main alarm fuse and measure the input current
(should be circa 2-4mA I believe) or I could remove all the front
plastics and take the thing out completely and stamp on it? It may not
be the fault of course but given that it only sounds for a few seconds
when the bike battery is removed but I'm feeling that it is.

Out of interest, any idea how much insurance discount I would actually
get having said alarm (living in Norf Lundin) as that was the only
reason I considered leaving it on there in the fist place.

Cheers, T i m

 

Thanks, I'm going in now then ...

There's a couple of things troubling / confusing me though.

There is a round 'fitting' in the rhs top of the glove box that could
be a light but could also be some sort of round touch sensor from an
old alarm system or summat? I've not been able to get to the back of
it to see how complicated it's wiring but I'll find out soon.

Secondly, cable-tied to the front of the System3 is something that is
about 10mm thick by 40 x 30 and with a thin 'extension' at one end
(so it's silhouette looks like a old mobile phone). I *think* it's
part of the alarm but the Tech guy at Datatool didn't seem to
recognise it from my description. I was thinking it could be a
'remote' movement sensor or the wireless receiver but again it could
also be a standard part of the bike that just happened to be stuck in
there with the alarm? Wen I get in there better and open it all up a
bit I might get a better idea what it's part of.

If you see smoke over Nth London ..... ;-(

Cheers, T i m

 

Anough to pay for the alarm in about 300 years.

 

Ah, good. So that's another thumbs down then.

Good job it won't cost me anything to take it out. ;-)

Didn't get chance to look closer today, should do tomorrow (weather
permitting). Today I was mainly delivering compressors and collecting
25l of NATO green oxide, de-corroding the Maj rear wheel and
overseeing daughter aciding the new battery for her MZ.

T i m

 

not a bike

 

For the purposes of this thread it is AND the logbook classes it as a
'Motorcycle', as does the insurance, the licence required to ride it
and our total hatred of those who drive cages. ;-)

It also complies with the getting soaked and cold when it rains and
sliding down the road on yer arse when you or some other numpty gets
it wrong bits.

But I get yer point. How about 'semi recumbent', automatic, small
wheeled motorcycle?

T i m

 

The Meta as fitted to the Fazer was pretty good actually.

Datatool ones are the work of Satan himself though, IME.

 

That seems to be the case here, however I think their tech support guy
thought this might be a Valeo (?) alarm 'upgraded' to a System3.

I don't suppose that's improved the situation though

T i m

 

sounds a bit long winded to me. how about scooter, which is what everyone
else says.

 

Ok, I'll play. ;-)

I think scooter is longer than my original 'bike' though and isn't a
scooter simply a sub division of the general genre of 'motor cycle' (
motor bike > bike)? [1]

If someone asked you about how you were going to get somewhere you
might answer "by train / car / walk". If you answered "by bike" they
could think you were going to cycle but might modify that thought
based on the distances involved. Would you reply 'by scooter' if you
thought they didn't care (or it didn't matter) about the detail (other
than along the lines of could they have a lift etc).

However, if someone here asked if you were going to a meet up and knew
you had both a motor cycle and a motor scooter then you might answer
"the scooter" as it might be pertinent.

Sfunny, when daughter had her first scooter (125 Skipper) all her
school mates initially referred to it as 'a ped', probably not
realising that was short for moped and therefore a maximum of 50cc.

Cheers, T i m

[1] And I was talking about a bike alarm as opposed to a car, house or
personal alarm. ;-)

 

in an ideal, rational world and all that.

in that same ideal, rational world, since a hovercraft is technically an
aircraft and you need a pilot's licence to drive one, if someone asked
you how you were crossing the channel and you were crossing by hovercraft,
you could say "by air" and they would be perfectly happy.

in this world though, they might think you a liar, or at the very least
deceptive or fraudulent.

 

Oh dear. ;-(

Indeed ... but you wouldn't would you? You would say "by hovercraft"
(or Hoverspeed to call it by a trade rather than actual machine name)
in the same way as you would say "by ferry" (be that conventional
ship, foil or cat etc) as opposed to "by train / Chunnel" or "flying"?

And you would only say 'by hovercraft' note, not "Mountbatten class
hovercraft, SR-N4"?

Assuming they cared or it mattered of course. ;-)

T i m