Off advice

Ok, ok apart from contacting ridersupport[1] & the insurance
wankers^Wcompany[1].

In a case of overtaking a line of stationary traffic[2] on a main road close
to where I park my trusty steed leading up to a set of lights where my
right-hand-turn is about 50yrds before-said lights. 5-10 yards before my
right-hand-turn, well in to my MSPSL out pops a ~12yr old girl from said
line of traffic not looking my way. I grab a handful, nice bit of tarmac
says "Come On Down!" to my front tyre.
I make the conscious decision of a) acquaint myself with tarmac or, b) gain
a new girl shaped ornament for my bike. Needless to say I said howdy to the
road.

To cut a long story short I got up picked up the bike[4] slapped it in
neutral, here comes the best bit, just before I start to roll it towards the
nearside curb one of caged c*nts behind me beeps there horn, FFS!

Exchanged particulars with said girl, she looked a little shocked. Also
grabbed a particulars of the bloke on a red bike [5] who witnessed it coming
the other way.

Upon speaking with the insewrance people they suggested I called the parents
to see if they have personal liability on there Household cover. After a
delightful conversation, with her mother saying "My daughter said you were
travelling at 60-70mph and skidded and fell off, so how can it be her
fault?"[6]. I didn't think it was the time to start a debate on who was in
the wrong and she didn't want to disclose her details to me so asked me for
mine so she could pass them on to her insurance company for me, to which I
obliged.

Who/What else should I do?

[1] Done.
[2] Travelling at <=30mph in a 30mph zone, in the bike land between cars and
central reservation [3]
[3] I know about the correct speed for the conditions argument, however
following my rule of expect the unexpected a school girl on _that_
particular stretch of Main road at _that_ time wasn't on the list.
[4] Mmmm, nice patch of oil, my bike obviously needed a piss.
[5] He was parked on the otherside of the carriageway and making a note of
his bike wasn't the first thing on my mind.
[6] Q: Can a ~12yr old truly identify the speed of an on coming bike that
she didn't see? [7]
[7] Q: If she did see me and note that I was doing her alleged looney speed
[8], why did she step out in front of me?
[9] If I was doing that speed I wouldn't have been able to make the choice
of whether or not to scoop her up on the way past.

 

Does anyone know what the situation is concerning being hit while in the
'filtering lane'?

Is the obligation wholly on the cage/pedestrian to ensure its safe to
perform their manoeuvre?



Or is it a case of your not supposed to be there so tough luck?

 

The should be doing that, not you, it's what you pay for (you have fully
comp insurance?)

After a delightful conversation, with her mother saying "My daughter said
you were travelling at 60-70mph and skidded and fell off, so how can it be
her fault?"

Right - a 12 yr old girl can judge road speeds having no experience of
driving or judging speeds generally. Especially as she wasn't looking your
way when she stepped out. If you had been doing 70mph, you'd probably dead,
along with her daughter, and at 50 yds from the ATS, would you really be
doing 70mph down the outside of a line of traffic??

I didn't think it was the time to start a debate on who was in the wrong
and she didn't want to
disclose her details to me so asked me for mine so she could pass them on to
her insurance company for me, to which I obliged.

Who/What else should I do?

Point out the girl could have crossed in safety at the traffic lights, yet
chose to cross through the traffic putting herself in danger.

Tell your insurance company to get their finger out. Submit a claim to the
girl's parents for uninsured losses - i.e. leathers, helmet etc.

--

Stu
XJ900
YTC#11 OSOS#23
pull my plonker when replying

 

Kayman wrote:

[snip details of incident]

If it's a vehicle to vehicle interface, and one does not submit
insurance details, you should call the police. I don't know about a
case like this. How do you know the mother will follow through?

--
John

SV650
Black it is
and naked

 

I've given ridersupport all the necessary and they said that they will do
all the following through for me

 

That's good to know.

--
John

SV650
Black it is
and naked

 

Yahuh, as long as you aren't riding dangerously or without due care and
attention.

Supposed to be there? Filtering is a legal and common practice for
motorcycles and bicycles. The roads aren't reserved specially for cars so
the assumption that all traffic is supposed to be stopped because the cars
are stopped is a false one.

 

Mr Precision wrote

This is a sensible thing to say.

 

Agreed, this will be going down in my statement of facts Cheers.