NSW: warning: 50kmh limits

I haven't seen much about this in the papers...

From 1st Nov, the speedlimit in builtup areas is 50kmh unless otherwise
signposted.

So everywhere that was 60 is now 50 unless a sign says different.

I can bet there will be a lot of radar about, on roads like Bexley Rd or
Kingsgrove Rd, biggish commuter roads that used to be 60 and there have
been no signs posted keeping them that way,

Zebee

 

I don't see it happening. Bexly or Kingsgrove roads at 50? The leadup to
this (50 zones in backstreets) has been long coming, the signs have been up for
a long time. I don't see them changing major roads like that on the day and
just expect people to sit down and take it. Not here in NSW anyway.

Let them try it. The media will have a field day.

 

In aus.motorcycles on Sat, 01 Nov 2003 09:04:41 +1100

It's been done. It's been gazetted, and is now law.

If there aren't signs, it's 50.

Zebee

 

You just have to look over the border to know it can, and will, be done. We had it happen in
Victoria. Although they did have a grace period of a month or so for people to get used to it.

And you'd expect the government to care about that?

 

Worked pretty well in Victoria.

-----sharks

 

Victorians LET it happen, and KEEP LETTING it happen. It's your choice,
speak out, if you don't you'll be left with the camera tax forever.

Oh my, how generous of your government to do that. Not.

<http://www.speedcam.co.uk/> Follow the links to the cooked cameras.

Being fair is one thing, but 'tax by stealth' is something that many will not
take lying down.

Again, it's the people's choice. They're mostly fair here in NSW simply
because people complain. Laws have been changed to cater for complaints. Mind
you, they're still doing what they're doing, just in a fairer manner, (which is
fine by me).

 

Yeah well, Victoria is not New South Wales.

From my limited experience with legal matters in Melbourne, legal recourse is
time consuming, frustrating, and mostly fruitless.

Whether this is because no-one appears to complain about anything, or no-one
complains _because_ there is little chance of recourse, I haven't worked out yet.
As such, I've found business is sometimes dealt with in quite a slack manner.
But again, if this is because they know they _can_ get away with it, or the
legal system _lets_ them get away with it, I'm not sure.

Either way, one supports the other. If you change one, the other will follow.


Then again, I may have just come across bad luck. I've never lived in
melbourne, nor spent any more than about a week there, so I may very well be wrong.


I don't want to paint a grim picture of Melbourne (or victoria for that
matter), the vast majority of my experience there has been excellent.
Just when things come unstuck, your courses of action are somewhat, sometimes
limited.

 

I think what the previous posters were concerned about was that speed limits
on some arterial roads will drop from 60kph to 50kph. I can't think of
any/many examples of non-residential side streets in Melbourne which have
50kph limits. I think the 50kph limits in Victoria have been applied very
well. Most roads which carry more than just light volumes of traffic have
remained at 60kph.

The application of 50kph zones in NSW has been far more draconian than in
Victoria. In Victorian towns and suburbs you usually find that the main
streets and thoroughfares are 60kph and the residential streets are 50kph. In
NSW most rural towns have a flat 50kph limit throughout.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

Hehehe And you really think that the two states are so different in attitudes? Get out more. As
you've alluded to below, you really don't have a clue and have no realistic personal experience (let
alone facts) to go by.

As it is pretty much anywhere in Australia.

[/QUOTE]

 

Surely NSW will go the same way as Qld and post major arterials as 60 or higher to
maintain a smooth quick commute and to make it unattractive to rat-run etc?
It would be stupid to not do so, esp when evidence from Qld would suggest it works.

Doug.

 

Most Sydney suburban arterials are already posted as 60 or higher.
This still isn't enough with the volume of Sydney traffic and people
are forever trying suburban shortcuts to try to get around the delays.

Another thing too; in Sydney the lane widths are narrower (they fit 3
lanes in where there used to be 2) and this lack of clearance slows
traffic as well.

I have a radical concept; how about we spend all the money that is
collected from fuel tax on the roads ? How about we actually make the
main roads (Pacific Highway for example) able to hold the volume of
traffic that flows down them and maybe this would reduce volumes of
traffic in residential areas and therefore numbers of collisions.

No ?
Oh stuff it, let's just reduce the resendential speed limit by 10kph.
We know it will do SFA as the real issue is traffic volumes but it
looks like we are doing something. In 5 years time we can try
something else (but we will leave the 50kph in place) and the idiot
public will have forgotten that our last effort was ineffectual.

Your mates,
the RTA and NSW State Government

 

I don't believe that... I just reckon you've ended up with a more sensible
lot of pollies over a period of time (yes I know... sensible and pollies
aren't often used together... but I was comparing pollies to other
pollies...not pollies to 'regular' people ;-)

Geoff and Jodie

 

I wouldn't hold your breath on that Nev... Castlemaine, Chewton, Maryborough
and other towns now have extended 50kph zones on main roads. Bendigo are
proposing that a length of about 10 kms of the main road through Bendigo to
the north instead of being 60 then 50 then 60 then 50 etc be made all 50kph.
I could quote other examples, but you get the point...


Geoff and Jodie

 

Did it over here a while back. Didn't slow down the bingles one little bit
now instead of a fairly uniform limit you can drive down one street that can
be 50, 60 and 70 within a few kilometers. The exercise has proven to be
nothing more than a cynical exercise in being seen to do something instead
of actually doing something that would reduce road deaths. Something like
actually teaching people to drive perhaps.
--
Deevo
Borrowing Clem's cynicism
Geraldton
WA, The Nanny State (® Corks)
www.wn.com.au/mckenzie

 

Victoria did that, but it has been (and continues to be) gradually eaten
away by local interests...


Geoff and Jodie

 

I believe that is at the request of local council, not an across the board
decision by government or Vicroads as is the case in NSW. Presumably
Vicroads, not the local council, is responsible for setting the speed limits
on these roads?

Nev..
'03 ZX12R
'02 CBR1100XX

 

It isn't across the board. It is the responsibility of VicRoads in most of
these cases. It is mostly at the request of the councils... but... it is
still happening, and happening more and more.

Geoff and Jodie

 

If you like travelling at the speed limit, you can now look forward to cars
tailgating you trying to do 60km/hr.
Don't know if its because they don't realise that the limit is 50, or they
don't think the postie can make 60 and are trying to give me a helpful push,
either way its bloody annoying.

Adrian
CT-110

 

What is idiotic in Melbourne is that the streets that are most likely to
have people stepping out from between cars and getting skittled (as
portrayed relentlessly in the drop to 50 advertising campaign) are the
aterial roads that pass through shopping centres. When was the last time in
a residential street you saw so many cars parked that you couldn't see
someone waiting to cross the road? Far more likely to happen on the roads
through local shopping centres, which generally, not always, happen to be
arterial/semi major roads where the limit has stayed at 60km/hr.

</rant end>

Adrian
CT-110

 

got that in Tas..... you get used to it

Had it in NSW 3 years ago. did you miss it?


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