NSW/SYD: banning colours

Speculation about possible future unintended consequences, is just that
speculation, it is without foundation and in this context without merit.

Boxer

 

Often "Patch Club's" turn up to these pubs in cars.

Boxer

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:48:37 +1100

no. It is, as far as we know, *all* clothing or jewellery with a club
logo or associated with a club.

What they'll do about tattoos is unknown....

Zebee

 

Went to the God's Squad 35th anniversary the other week, there were lots of
1% clubs in attendance
some of whom I haven't seen for a long time
as you infer, they all look the same from the front so how could you tell?

 

True as ever, I know of a 1% club who used to frequent the local pub and
arrive by public transport complete with displayed colours

 

especially when he is wearing a burka

 

Shucks, not even a single bite
(oops, left the K off my nickers)

So how does that relate to discrimination agin the average rider?
Sim.

 

Is this because you ride a postie bike and wear bright yellow wet weather
gear ??

 

The whole Police dept and half of Parliament house heaved a sigh of relief
when he blew up.

Theo

 

So now it is coming out, you are calling 1% riders drunkards?

reminds me, whatever happened to the Donald Duck motorcycle club?
they were infamous in their way in the late 60s and early 70s

 

is that the shirt with the "81" written on it ??

 

Far more, such as politicians should have done time for what they have done
but got away with it

Reminds me yet again of politicians

Some politicians used to be lawyers

and have them walk around half naked..........................?
ugly sight

 

Well in that case you shouldn't care as only 1%ers are banned, not
motorcyclists...

JL
(when a non OMCG biker gets bounced then there'd be reason to complain)

You can do all the complaining you like, but I guarantee it will get you
nowhere

 

Yeah, you have a point, it's certainly unusual for me to be sitting on
the same side of the fence as Boxer...

I guess because I can't see the potential as a real issue. It's
certainly not *impossible* that every pub in NSW will suddenly refuse
to serve anyone in bike gear; but I just can't see it happening
anywhere other than a handful of pubs who have a jumped up idea of
their own status.

I also can't see how it actually changes anything. There are already
pubs today that will prevent people entering based on what they wear.

The only thing that worries me is the possibility that it is being
forced on the pubs - if that's so, I have a real issue with it.

I have no issue with any pub trying to choose who their patrons are.

JL

 

Could also be that Damien could have been walking through the Cairns
shopping centre
and the looks were not of disgust, but amazement because of the heat

 

Hang on. According to the facts available we have an explicit list of
18 banned clubs. So the Hells Accountant in his HOG jacket turns up
and the bouncer says no "Hells Angels" and he turns around and says
"is my logo on that list" ? And if the bouncer still refuses him
admission on the basis of being a banned OMCG club member he can lodge
a complaint with fair trading which will cost him $35 and cause enough
inconvenience to the publican to ensure his door apes attempt to read
the logo or at least go find someone literate who can read it.

It's just as plausible a scenario as the Damien "the world is caving
in every biker will be banned from every pub in Australia" version.

I don't know which will happen, but I'm betting on the latter.

JL

The HA could also turn up with their red "81" shirt
which knuckle dragging bouncer would know what that meant?

 

I think I was a bit obscure with the reference - I was referring to
the Ulysses incidents, not the remote possibility that a Ulysses or
HOG member might be barred from entering a pub.

But as far as it goes, to the extent that a wannabe makes himself
indistinguishable from the real thing TM then he can't complain if he
is treated like a 1%er too loudly. He's obviously getting some
personal benefit from attempting to appear to be a 1%er, you have to
take the good with the bad.

No but if he's a muslim who goes around telling everyone that Al Qaeda
are going to soft on Australia and that it's about time that someone
bombed parliament then he can't complain that he then gets treated as
a (potential) terrorist by the Feds.

Which would be a far closer analogy to the above. Walking like a
duck, quacking like a duck, then you're getting treated like a duck.

You have done the same thing Damien keeps doing - you're generalising
the particular to the wider group without much basis. There's no
reason that any old muslim should be treated as a terrorist any more
than any old biker will be treated as a 1%er. I object strongly to the
move from the particular to the general (as you well know). But unlike
our terrorist laws these don't give general powers to deal with a
particular issue. They give particular powers to deal with a
particular issue, which is how laws should be drafted.

JL

 

I have never owned a Denim Cut-off, could never see the practical
application in owning one. In the early days of motor cycling my standard
mode of dress was a Bellstaff, Leather Brando Jacket, or on hot summer days
a standard Denim Jacket (no large Eagle sewn on the back or patches of my
seaside holiday on the Gold Coast as I always considered, that "Look" was
rather silly.



I have never owned a ratty chopper (or anything ratty as maintenance of my
motorcycles is something I take great personal pride in). So I cannot
comment on the reception one is likely to get arriving so adorned. Hoverer I
may speculate that one would get a similarly hostile reception adorned as a
Bogan with questionable personal hygiene in a ratty EH Holden Ute.



Boxer

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:20:08 +1100

Well...

There was always the chance they would refuse admission.

There are 2 differences here.

1) they can now call the police if you refuse to go.

2) It is *possible* that other pubs will have the same licence
conditions. It is unknown if this will be forced on them or not.

Zebee

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:39:27 GMT

That's another Angels related shirt.

Zebee