NSW: more on greenslips

Yeah... and look what happened!

 

Gobbledegook and spin doctoring at its best

 

As the motorcycle is half the width of a car, it is 50% less likely to
hit anyone.

Theo

 

I must confess that in my naivete I have always believed that my CTP
payments were my contribution to potential third party claims against me
or my estate and *not* to fund claims that *I* might conceivably bring
against another road user. Just shows to go, hey?

 

As the motorcycle is half the width of a car, it is 50% less likely to
hit anyone.

Theo

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You have a bloody wide bike Theo
You ride a Leadwing?
The typical bike is one third the width of a car
therefore it is 66% less likely to hit anyone

 

I was taking a guess, but now you've made me look it up. The widest
car I could find was the Toyota Landcruiser 200 at 1970mm. A Holden
Calais is 1899mm. A hyundai Getz is 1665mm. The narrowest bike I could
find easily was the Fireblade at 685mm. A CB400 is 725mm. My Norge
is 870, a HD Soft-tail is 945, The Goldwing is also 945mm. You do the
maths George to see if you can figure out whether my guess of 50% is
closer or not than your 1/3 for anything like the average motorcycle.

Theo
It's my brother that has the Leadwing.
Theo

 

I was taking a guess, but now you've made me look it up. The widest
car I could find was the Toyota Landcruiser 200 at 1970mm. A Holden
Calais is 1899mm. A hyundai Getz is 1665mm. The narrowest bike I could
find easily was the Fireblade at 685mm. A CB400 is 725mm. My Norge
is 870, a HD Soft-tail is 945, The Goldwing is also 945mm. You do the
maths George to see if you can figure out whether my guess of 50% is
closer or not than your 1/3 for anything like the average motorcycle.

Theo
It's my brother that has the Leadwing.
Theo

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Okay by your measurements Theo
but, your measurements are a little bit doubtful
a typical motorcycle is about 85 cm width,

one of my Harleys is only 500 mm wide
one Honda is 380 mm wide
the other Honda is 350 wide
the Triumph is 425 wide
another Triumph is 385 wide
the Ford Falcon is about 1800 wide, which brings my one third width as
feasible.
Now, you may be talking about the total width of the bike including
handlebars and mirrors, which admittedly, add more width to come close to
your half measurements
But, if you are adding the width of handlebars and mirrors, then also add
the extra width of the rear view mirrors of a car, which will add 400 to 500
mm to the total width.
So, your Toyota Landcruiser will now be somewhere closer to to 2470 mm,
bringing my one third width compared to a car closer

 

Moike wrote...

I wonder if he's also "explaining" this to people who have no choice but to do
these energy intensive chores at whatever times are available to them.

For example, try telling a woman who has two young children, say, one who is a
few months old and another who is, say, 2, to restrict the nappy washing to
weekends or at nights...

Or a mother with 3 or 4 teenagers who play footy, who train twice a week and who
may also play other sports which require fresh gear to be available for them.

When I heard a politician spruiking the "benefits" of smart meters and he was
spouting this claptrap, I had to wonder if the fellow has ever had children and
if so, was he aware of the demands of them on the household routine.

In any case, whatever consumers may do to modify their power usage, the meters
will still capture this. If they think that it will result in a flatter energy
usage profile on the system then they are either being conned big time by the
retailers who stand to benefit the most from this rollout, or that they are
receiving other "benefits" in order to push this bullshit.

 

Nev.. wrote...

I thought that these smart meters also measured imported and exported power.
Hence my comments about them.

If you're correct then people who have installed solar panels may need to look
at this if you suggest that they could be charged for exporting back to the
grid, or even just reducing their "in house load".

 

Shirley,
a touchy subject and you get a different answer from different people in
the same department.
One will say that the smart meter measures all incoming and outgoing supply
Another will say that it measures the outgoing, but only part of the
ingoing, that is, after the house has taken its share of the daily output
from the panels.
I sat in the electricity office for 15 minutes after I asked the question to
a staffer, then she another staffer argued for 15 minutes as to how the
charges were allocated.
I was left, not only on the other side of the desk, but totally in the
outer, so I left with no real answer as to how my solar panel meter output
shows three times the amount of what the smart meter shows as input to their
meter.
I preferred the older meter, where it showed the meter going in reverse and
when the meter reader came around, it showed that I had used bugger all
electricity and all I have to pay is the supply charges, which should work
in the reverse,
I supply electricity back to the grid, so the electricity company should
deduct the charges from my supplying their grid

 

George W Frost wrote...

Or, you could be charged for a generating licence, as the main generators are...

Me, I'd be happy just to get the meter to slow down or to stop spinning. But
given that the size of the panels that I'd require to cover my current usage
levels, I'd be dead before I saw a nett benefit from it.

I'll be content with a 12% staff discount and that I pay for my power pre-tax.

 

The new meter is digital and doesn't spin either way

 

We had several problems with the supply people so I pulled the pole fuse
, we used nothing for a 1/4 and still got a bill
idiots I say idiots

 

Would have been your supply charge, which you cannot get away with

 

Hehehe, yes you can George. I haven't been charged the supply charge
since I turned 60 and got me a WA Seniors Card. The same card also got
me a 25% discount on my Shire rates, but my Pensioner Card now gets me
50% discount on the rates.

Theo

 

In WA, my Smart meter records power usage depending on the time of
day. Power that I generate from my panels and use doesn't ever get to
the meter and so is not measured. Power that I generate in excess of
my usage is recoreded as exported by the meter in the appropriate time
of day section. This is on my bill as a credit with the credit being
the rate of the time of day cost less the GST. E.g. the last bill
credited me with 11 units at peak rates at 29.06 cents per unit,
$3.20. My peak usage was 155 units at 32 cents per unit. This is
changing from August 1 to 47 cents for each unit exported no matter
what time of day. My peak usage was 10% of my total usage, partly
because I mange it and partly because most of my generation is done
during peak times.

In the first 12 months of having my 1.2Kw panels I have produced 1200
units of which I exported 170, The other 1030 I used whilst generating
them. My neighbour had the same system installed on the same day as me
(we negotiated a discount of $100 each for this) and he faces due
North, where I face about 10º East. He generated 1600 units for the
year but he also has no trees that interfere with his panel, where I
have some trees that need trimming to gain me an extra hour in the
morning sun. The problem is that those branches are some 10 metres or
more from the ground. Maybe I'll con a grandchild into climbing up
there

Actually I'm waiting delivery of a rope saw that should be here next
week.
https://www.forestrytools.com.au/index.php?id=104

Theo

 

Yup, starting from last week I am getting 40 cents per unit plus what
the retailer is paying. Up to last week the retailer was paying me the
same rate they were charging me less the GST but, by some amazing
coincidence, on the very same day that the 40 cents kicked in, they
decided that henceforth they would only pay me what the power actually
cost them. They say this is 7 cents a unit. So I will be getting 47
cents for exported units. Fuckers!

Theo

 

Hehehe, yes you can George. I haven't been charged the supply charge
since I turned 60 and got me a WA Seniors Card. The same card also got
me a 25% discount on my Shire rates, but my Pensioner Card now gets me
50% discount on the rates.

Theo

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I am going to grow old in a hurry and move to WA

 

How many panels have you got? At this time of year I'm lucky to
generate 2 units a day from my 6 x 200 watt panels. Are they paying
you for gross generation or export only?

Theo

 

Have you got a tracking system to get that 11 Kw?
Mine is north orientated and I can only get about 6.5Kw this weather