NSW: Drivers hitting riders - small progress

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Zebee Johnstone, Jan 24, 2006.

  1. via the MCC list. The MCC has been invited to take part in
    conferencing programs via the courts.

    If you feel like spitting chips, check the dollar amounts at the end.

    Zebee


    MOTORCYCLE COUNCIL OF NSW

    Some of you will have taken an interest in the story at the following link

    http://www.manlydaily.com.au/common/story_page/0,7168,17839473^15721,00.ht
    ml

    We have created an opportunity to have the Court understand the issues
    from the motorcyclists perspective. The Attorney Generals Department
    has responded to our inquiring after the above matter.

    Clinton (Vice-Chairman) and Guy (Chairman) will attend this on behalf of the
    MCC of NSW.

    This is a significant opportunity for us all to raise issues of social
    inequity as well as offering practial help to the Court in understanding
    attitudes and consequences.

    We have been invited to participate in a pilot programme through "one of the
    Local Courts" - Conferencing for Young Adult Offenders.

    This involves offenders between the ages of 18 and 24 meeting with the
    victim or victims of their offence to discuss the incident and the harm that
    has been caused and to suggest ways that the offender can address that harm.
    The suggestions are submitted to the Magistrate as part of the sentencing
    process.

    We have been invited to attend and contribute our knowledge and experience
    to the conference.

    The facilitator is currently preparing for a conference involving a motor
    vehicle accident in which a motorcycle was hit by a car. The rider has
    suffered a brain injury and the magistrate has referred the matter to a
    conference to allow the offender and the victim to meet each other and talk
    about what happened.

    I understand that a newspaper reporter has requested attendance under
    special disclosure conditions (i.e. only the issues raised can be reported,
    not who, why or when.) We have indicated that we see no problem with that.

    We will report on this after the event.

    Guy




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    Some MCC of NSW Comments
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    As I mentioned, motorcycle riders feel they are treated as second class
    road users. I will explain a few basics with facts in support.

    These two recent articles from the Manly Daily have been discussed heavily
    by riders:-

    http://www.manlydaily.com.au/common/story_page/0,7168,17793152%5E15721,00.
    html

    http://www.manlydaily.com.au/common/story_page/0,7168,17839473^15721,00.ht
    ml

    The view of the motorcycle community is that this all too typical example
    shows an attitude of disregard towards motorcycles.

    In a broader aspect, government policy tends to establish attitudes
    towards any group within the community.

    Part 2 of our recent submission to the NTC on proposed amendments to
    the Australian Road Rules carries an Introduction where comments show
    how part of this attitude is systematically entrenched. (download from
    box on right of screen) http://www.mccofnsw.org.au/a/166.html


    The introduction to this page covers the same topic from a different angle:-
    http://www.roadsafety.mccofnsw.org.au/a/10.html


    This page gives a brief overview of the role of "other drivers" in
    motorcycle crashes:- http://www.roadsafety.mccofnsw.org.au/a/36.html

    From the front page of our Road Safety website, you may also access
    statistics on motorcycle crashes. The proportion of cars hitting
    motorcycles has shrunk since the RTA commenced (at the urging of the
    MCC of NSW) running "Motorcycle Awareness" programs.

    In 2000, at-fault cars hitting motorcycles comprised about one half of all
    motorcycle crashes. Despite an increase in motorcycles of around 30% since
    then, total motorcycle crashes have fallen, indicating that both drivers and
    riders have taken responsibility.

    Unfortunately, our current Minister for Transport has cut funding for
    motorcycle safety programs and they have fallen to pre-2002 levels.

    Motorcycles are classified as "Vulnerable Road Users", as are bicycles and
    pedestrians, because they have no protective cage.
    Last year in NSW funding from the RTA for safety programs for each VRU group
    was approximately as follows:-

    Bicycles $ 45 million
    Pedestrians $ 20 million
    Motorcycles $ 50 thousand

    Prior to 2002, motorcycles received around $20,000 per annum.


    "Not only a motorcycles invisible to car drivers, but are also invisible to
    public policy"




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    Zebee Johnstone, Jan 24, 2006
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  2. Zebee Johnstone

    alx Guest

    That would look great on a graph!

    Motorcycle funding is 0.1% of bicycle funding programs.

    Can you draw a thin line?

    And just what COULD $50 grand get you? Couple of banners and a committee or
    two?
     
    alx, Jan 24, 2006
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  3. In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 24 Jan 2006 22:09:01 +1100
    Pretty much. Some bus ads, and the artwork for the writing on the
    back of rego stickers.

    Don't you feel special?

    Now, if 10 or 15 people would write indignantly to their state MP...

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jan 24, 2006
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