NSW: CTP Protest press release

If you need some ammo to persuade people to turn up, try these
numbers...

I've taken the day off and will be heading in earlyish although
probably not at 6am!

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Changes to the NSW Compulsory Third Party (CTP) scheme on July 1st
this year, saw motorcycle and scooter riders slugged with outrageous
price increases. Some riders are facing increases of nearly 100%.
This is despite a dramatic decrease in fatalities since 1995. Car
drivers are now also beginning to question the CTP scheme.

• FACT: In 1995 there were 8.9 motorcycle fatalities per 10,000
registered motorcycles in NSW.

• FACT: In 2008 there were 3.7 motorcycle fatalities per 10,000
registered motorcycles in NSW.

There are almost 168,000 registered motorcycles in NSW and half a
million motorcycle licence holders. There are more motorcycles and
scooters on the road than ever and the road toll is going down.
“With more bikes on our roads, we will continue to see a marked
reduction in congestion, pollution and parking problems, especially
in major cities like Sydney†the Chairman of the Motorcycle Council
of NSW (MCC of NSW), Rob Colligan stated today. “But instead of
promoting greener transport, motorcycles and scooters are being
financially driven off the roads with massive increases in CTP
premiums.â€

The MCC of NSW is therefore calling upon all motorcycle and scooter
owners, along with motorcycle industry representatives to converge
on Parliament House at 12 noon on August 31st to protest this unfair
and unjustified money- grab on one of the greenest forms of transport
on our roads. “It is time for our political leaders to come clean
on why they do not recognize motorcycles and scooters as unique and
independent road users, instead of treating us as some sort of small
car or some sort of problem,†Colligan said.

“The Motorcycle Council of NSW would like to apologise to the people
of Sydney for any inconvenience our protest may cause, but it is
time for us all to stand up and be counted.â€

The MCC of NSW has invited the Premier of NSW to address the protest,
yet only the Shadow Minister for Roads, Andrew Stoner, has accepted
the invitation. “The government can ensure insurance company profits
do not undermine the CTP scheme and it is time for the Kenneally
Government to answer to the people of NSW the hard question, of
what is wrong with our CTP Scheme.†Colligan said.

THE MCC of NSW
United we ride - Divided we walk

For further information and all media enquiries please contact:
Rob Colligan – Chairman MCC of NSW 0401227731

The Motorcycle Council of NSW(MCC of NSW) was established in 1982
is the state’s pre-eminent motorcycle advisory group and represents
40,000 motorcycle riders from 38 social clubs and motorcycling
organisations.

 

Zebee Johnstone wrote...

With NSW's CTP scheme, when a fatality occurs, say a rider in a single vehicle
crash, does the insurer pay out anything?

And when a rider's clouted by a car/truck, who pays to cover the rider's health
care costs if the car driver is at fault?

What about when the rider is at fault?

I'm only used to Victoria's scheme which is a "no fault" one where all road
users are covered. And it's also administered by a government owned and run
Transport Accident Commission.

In any case, good luck with the protest. I hope that you guys get a decent
turnout.

When's NSW due for an election?

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 06 Aug 2010 06:50:18 +1000

No. 3rd party only.

the 3rd party insurance, that's what 3rd party means!

They are out of luck unless they have their own insurance.

Same in every state but Vic.

Zebee

 

Did such a thing ever exist for motorcycle riders?

I seem to recall that most CTP schemes had at-fault cover as a
"bonus", but none covered at-fault motorcycle riders, because we're
all irresponsible dangerous hoons, of course. However, these latest
changes make at-fault cover just an ordinary part of CTP rather than
an optional extra:
http://www.greenslips.com.au/at-fault-driver-cover.html

Does this mean riders are finally covered? Will this explain why the
cost has suddenly exploded, to cover single-vehicle, at fault riders?

--
TimC
Yesterday, after years of trying, I finally managed to take a photo of a
subway train that said "INSTRUCTION CAR" just so that someday I can caption
it "...but where's the DATA CDR?" when I'm ready to make a joke that's
nerdy even by the standards of jokes about LISP. -- James "Kibo" Perry

 

Zebee Johnstone wrote...

OK. Now that we've cleared that up, I cannot understand how the government can
justify these price increases if the rider gets no payout, no benefit from it
when he prangs, if no-one else caused it.

I can see why you guys are ropeable over this.

 

There is always the old excuse car drivers use
I swerved to miss a child on the road
or insert dog, cat, other car, elderly pedestrian, kangaroo, wombat, learner
driver
whatever you wish

 

In aus.motorcycles on Fri, 6 Aug 2010 21:29:01 +1000

It is my understanding that a) the at fault driver cover was fairly
useless (especially as it was basically "medicare plus ambulance"
so it was pretty much ambulance fees, and b) the main increase has
been in the new lifetime care scheme which *covers non-insured
people* such as kids on farm bikes.

It isn't clear what the cost breakdown is, because no one is
publishing any figures. The at fault thing is the government trying
to push hospital costs from the state system to the greenslip system,
but just how that's being done and what the figures are is not known
aside from some handwaving.

The only thing known is that the numbers being used to calculate crash
costs are drawn from RTA crash stats *not* CTP claims. It's more
handwaving.


Zebee

 

Kids on farm bikes should be covered by the householders insurance for
incidents on the property
If they are claiming the increases are because of that, then they are double
dipping and clearly ripping the insured off.