NSW: CTP letters

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Zebee Johnstone, Jul 11, 2010.

  1. If you are annoyed at the increases in CTP, then time to write a
    letter. (A real snail mail one is best, email if you must)

    This from the MCC

    (these were discussed in the meeting, a meeting I
    couldn't make, so I can't expand on the points. If yo uwant expansion
    please ask about the ones that aren't clear and I'll get the info)

    Please find below the bullet points that we would like you to use in
    your words in letters to the following:

    Your State Local Member.
    http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/members.nsf/V3ListCurrentMembers
    Your Local Council/Mayor.
    Your Federal Local Member.
    Your local Paper.
    Premier of NSW: Kristina Keneally,
    The Minister for Roads: David Borger,

    The Minister for Transport: John Robertson,

    The Minister for the MAA: Eric Roozendaal,

    The Minister for Finance: Michael Daley,

    Leader of the Opposition: Barry O’Farrell,
    Shadow Minister of Transport: Gladys Berejiklian,

    Shadow Minister for Roads: Andrew Stoner


    Ask these questions and use these points:

    Why are some CTP insurers making no effort to offer
    competitive pricing for a compulsory, statutory product?
    - Clearly, the CTP system is fat and lazy with few incentives to
    offer fair pricing

    ·Whose turn is to be cheapest next year? GIO seem to be the cheapest this year.
    - Cheap does not mean sub-standard.
    - It indicates one company is pricing based on actual risk and others are seeking profit
    from how they market their product.
    - It is unreasonable for a statutory, compulsory product, to force up pricing by confusing
    or misleading through so-called “marketingâ€
    - Marketing distortions do not reflect actual risk.

    Why should existence of another insurance product or roadside service change pricing for CTP risk?
    - Please explain how these are related to actual CTP claims risk.

    Why do some insurers have different risk ratings?
    - If actual risks were known, then all insurers would vary on the same criteria.

    How do demerit points relate to actual risk of a CTP claim arising?
    - Demerit points and actual risk of a crash are quite separate
    and no longer indicate crash risk.
    Minor crashes with no injury are about property damage, not CTP claims
    - Speeding fines are simply used as a “malus stick†for revenue
    generation by insurers.

    While the MAA is clear on the amount of money leaving the scheme, how much money
    is collected by insurance companies?
    - The question of fair profit follows, but transparency must be achieved.


    Points to remember in your letters:
    The NSW CTP scheme has flaws and this recent change in motorcycle
    classifications has exposed these flaws to view.
    o These flaws can only be repaired by our elected government.
    o Let them know it needs fixing.
    o Don’t just whinge to your mate, then roll over. That’s lazy.
    Stand up, speak out.
    o We’re being gouged by insurers exploiting the flaws.
    o Speak to Parliament or they assume you’re OK with it.

    Please forward any responses via email back to us.

    In the meantime, we are continuing to plan for the Protest Rally on
    August 31st. Please spread the word.

    The next Meeting of the MCC of NSW is on Monday, August 2nd. We would
    welcome all attendees and involvement.
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jul 11, 2010
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  2. **** me dead.

    Yeebok has come up with a relevant question

    Good boy...............................
     
    George W Frost, Jul 12, 2010
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  3. Zebee Johnstone

    BT Humble Guest

    You're only 39? Crikey, you must have had a hard life! :)


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jul 12, 2010
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  4. In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:50:30 +1000
    Now I wonder just what these plans are when it comes to motorcycles
    and CTP....

    NSW already is "number one" if the contest is "highest premiums" after
    all.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jul 13, 2010
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  5. Zebee Johnstone

    BT Humble Guest

    "You have our pity. Now vote for us."


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jul 13, 2010
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  6. Zebee Johnstone

    BT Humble Guest

    Teeheehee! You said "member"!


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jul 13, 2010
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  7. Zebee Johnstone

    JustBiggus Guest

    Well it's not as if the opposition have anything else to do with their time.
    Is there an opposition in the country that stands out as "they will do
    better"? Sad eh!
    Even at the top end, its not looking very good at all... What shit
    options :(
     
    JustBiggus, Jul 13, 2010
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  8. You are getting to be a naughty little boy Yeebs
    sending nasty letters like that,
    imagine having the audacity to tell them they are not talking straight
     
    George W Frost, Jul 14, 2010
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  9. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 14 Jul 2010 09:45:11 +1000
    Thanks heaps for all this Yeebok. If 10 more people do it, it will
    get a lot of attention in their deliberations.

    It is my guess they know they will get this election (although I
    thought that last time, talk about defeat from the jaws of victory!)
    and they will be wanting to win the next one.

    So they do have an incentive to do a few things in their first term.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jul 14, 2010
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  10. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:50:49 +1000
    Yeah, mine was mid May!

    The Mighty Scooter is due in October. Dunno how much damage a 180c
    scooter can do to a 3rd party, even a hotted up one, but it will be
    costing me almost as much as the Norge did in May.

    Back to this damn levy which is blame the victim if anything is.

    Trouble is that changing the central problem - 80 years of cultural
    acceptance of the private car as sacred and the centre of all
    transport policy - is not going to be easy.

    If car owners and drivers had to pay the real cost of their vehicle
    then a hell of a lot of things would change but they don't. And won't
    in a democracy.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jul 14, 2010
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  11. Zebee Johnstone

    BT Humble Guest

    Did we already use the VD joke in this thread?


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jul 14, 2010
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  12. Zebee Johnstone

    BT Humble Guest

    How many times do I have to say this? DEMOCRACY JUST DOESN'T WORK,
    PEOPLE!


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jul 14, 2010
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  13. I don't permanently reside in NSW, nor do I have any bikes registered in NSW
    although I do frequently drive through NSW on my way between Victoria and
    Queensland
    SO....? as you say,
    there is no point in me sending off any complaining letter/s
    I will leave that to your deft little hands
    Also, I was not chiding you Yeebs
    you obviously have no sense of humour
    or if you do, then it is on a different bus than mine
     
    George W Frost, Jul 14, 2010
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  14. Zebee Johnstone

    TimC Guest

    I foolishly bought a bike a few days ago, rather than buying it when I
    first test rode it a month ago.


    Should arrive in the post in a couple of days. Pity I'm going on
    night shift tomorrow and can't enjoy it for another week.
     
    TimC, Jul 14, 2010
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  15. Zebee Johnstone

    TimC Guest

    ___
    I vote BTH \1/ as benevolent dictator!
    v
     
    TimC, Jul 14, 2010
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  16. You bought a postie bike ??
     
    George W Frost, Jul 14, 2010
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  17. Zebee Johnstone

    BT Humble Guest

    GhostScript will extract the text from pretty much any PDF file.


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jul 21, 2010
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  18. Zebee Johnstone

    TimC Guest

    Those evil hacker communists.
     
    TimC, Jul 21, 2010
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  19. Zebee Johnstone

    BT Humble Guest

    Yep, that's the ones.


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jul 26, 2010
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