NSW: change to licencing

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Zebee Johnstone, May 17, 2009.

  1. THe RTA is sneaking in a change to the licencing it seems, so if you
    know anyone thinking about getting a licence then they had better get
    a wriggle on!

    http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/hansart.nsf/V3Key/LA20090311015

    "Under the changes announced today, a new P2 rider stage will be
    introduced for motorcyclists for the first time. This will extend the
    minimum provisional period for motorcycle riders from one to three
    years, that is, 12 months for P1 riders, followed by two years on a P2
    licence, the same as cars. It means that the earliest someone can now
    get an unrestricted rider licence will increase from age 18 to age 20.
    These are the same P1 and P2 phases as a car driver, which also means
    that rider restrictions will be in place for longer. Importantly, this
    will now mean that provisional riders will need to comply with the
    same conditions as provisional drivers - zero blood alcohol content,
    specific speed restrictions and tailor-made demerit points allocation
    that sends a very strong deterrent message to novice riders about road
    safety. The current learner and provisional restrictions on motorcycle
    size and engine power will also be extended to include the P2 period."


    And the mature age ones are being changed too:

    http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/gettingalicence/motorcycle/full_rider_licence.html?llid=9



    Riders over the age of 25 that meet RTA requirements may receive an
    exemption from the P2 phase. To be eligible for an exemption from the
    P2 phase, riders must:
    Be 25 years of age or older when they apply for the unrestricted
    driver licence.
    Hold a current Australian unrestricted driver licence.
    Have completed a minimum of 12 months on a P1 licence.
    Meet all other licensing requirements.


    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, May 17, 2009
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  2. Zebee Johnstone

    theo Guest

    In WA there are two types of P plate now, red and green. As I've seen
    them on both cars and bikes I assumes the same rules apply. Is there a
    difference?

    On an another interesting note, in the interests of saving a dollar
    here and there, WA is discontinuing rego stickers and labels as from 1
    Jan, 2010. No more stickers will be issued for renewal of rego after
    that date. They claim they can check your rego from your number plate.
    No idea what happens if you're driving your WA vehicle in Victoria.

    Theo
     
    theo, May 18, 2009
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  3. In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 17 May 2009 16:46:13 -0700 (PDT)
    In NSW there's a difference in the restrictions.

    The P1s have a lower max speed limit, limit on passengers, and a
    couple of others I think.
    Probably the same as if you drive your Victorian trailer in NSW.
    Endless arguments with the coppers.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, May 18, 2009
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  4. Especially if your trailer is of the type not having to be registered.
    But I suppose that it would go back to the old argument of when in Rome, do
    as the Romans do
    otherwise, when interstate, you have to abide by the rules of that state you
    are in
    except for when you are in the state of confusion
     
    George W Frost, May 18, 2009
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  5. Does that mean that I wouldn't be exempt to get a NSW licence because I have
    never completed 12 months on a P1 licence?

    They were not even invented when I got mine
     
    George W Frost, May 18, 2009
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  6. Zebee Johnstone

    x.x Guest

    mEbe 4 u trailz with vic reg cars r fine
     
    x.x, May 18, 2009
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  7. Zebee Johnstone

    theo Guest

    Novice drivers are restricted to a zero Blood Alcohol Content level
    (BAC)
    Novice drivers (drivers which have not held a driver's licence for at
    least 2 years) will be required to have a zero Blood Alcohol Content
    (BAC) when driving.

    This applies to all novice drivers including Learner's permit holders
    who are attempting to get their first driver's licence and Provisional
    licence holders (P-platers).

    *********Ahhh, here is the difference. People with red PPlates are not
    allowed on the roads between midnight and 5 am.

    Night time restrictions for P-platers

    When a novice driver passes the Hazard Perception Test they are then
    entitled to a provisional licence (P-plater). Driving between midnight
    and 5:00am is prohibited for the first 6 months of your provisional
    licence.

    If you drive between these hours when you are restricted to do so you
    will be deemed to be an unlicensed driver. This means:

    You will be issued an infringement notice and penalised $200 and


    You will accrue 2 demerit points.


    Theo
     
    theo, May 18, 2009
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  8. That lot has got me stuffed
    I can't find the correct decoder or translator for it
    It doesn't even look logical
     
    George W Frost, May 18, 2009
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  9. Zebee Johnstone

    F Murtz Guest

    I think jhhg bdnew ajjk nm jh mnkjzaazzgj is the bzxdssgfe jhfgmhv
    wot he means
     
    F Murtz, May 18, 2009
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  10. Zebee Johnstone

    F Murtz Guest

    What happens if you are a shift worker in a place with no transport? Are
    there exemptions?
     
    F Murtz, May 18, 2009
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  11. Zebee Johnstone

    theo Guest

    http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing/yourlicence/15641.asp#Night_time_restrictions_for_P-platers

    I need to drive to get to work. Are there any exceptions to this rule?

    Provisional drivers can drive between midnight and 5am if:

    They are driving to or from their home to their place of work by the
    shortest possible route.


    Driving is required as part of their work duties.


    They are driving to or from a place of education or training where
    they are enrolled for tuition.

    Theo
     
    theo, May 18, 2009
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  12. [applause]
     
    Andrew McKenna, May 18, 2009
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  13. " May be for you. Trailers with Victorian registered cars are fine. "
    C'mon George, it's hardly rocket science. More effort then it deserves,
    maybe, but not hard.
     
    Andrew McKenna, May 18, 2009
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  14. Andrew, the point is that if you have a keyboard in front of you, it is much
    easier than to try to punctuate words with symbols that some people
    including myself, cannot understand.
    I am sure that entering such text as what is up there, is just as hard, if
    not harder than typing the correct spelling, so why not use the normal
    spelling, instead of entering symbols like that?

    Or as I said, he is suffering from a memory retention problem or is a
    cockhead
     
    George W Frost, May 18, 2009
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  15. Zebee Johnstone

    x.x Guest

    Fail
     
    x.x, May 18, 2009
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  16. Zebee Johnstone

    x.x Guest

    win
     
    x.x, May 18, 2009
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  17. Zebee Johnstone

    Nev.. Guest

    the only purpose a rego sticker serves these days is to confirm that
    the number plates on the bumber match the sticker on the window.
    The National Exchange for Vehicle and Driver Information System
    (NEVDIS) database has been implemented nationwide.
    Police anywhere can access your license and rego details for any
    driver or vehicle in Australia.

    Nev,,
     
    Nev.., May 18, 2009
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  18. Zebee Johnstone

    F Murtz Guest

    Do not care.
     
    F Murtz, May 18, 2009
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  19. Zebee Johnstone

    x.x Guest

    Lolz

    U no u do
     
    x.x, May 18, 2009
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  20. Zebee Johnstone

    xyzzy Guest

    Disregard x.x posts unless they are directly related to the topic. If
    you look at the practical effect of his posts, he is persistently
    directing the forum discussion away from the topic being discussed. I
    also suspect he gets a bit of satisfaction out of this. There are
    weirdos on the Internet that do this. x.x is trolling you. Try not
    to bite.
     
    xyzzy, May 18, 2009
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