[QUOTE="Bear"] Strangely, according to JP, those things aren't actually (from what he's seen) any more dangerous than solid barriers, which sounds amazing but he swore blind it was true, from personal experience.[/QUOTE] It's not the wire rope that's the problem (IMHO), it's the unprotected posts holding them in place. The ropes simply guide you and your bike to a steel post where the dismemberment/disembowelling can begin. Oh, and that compulsory leg protector legislation, that was the most dangerous too.