If you don't know or ride around Derby, then this message is not for you The section of ring road from Harvey Road (Blue Peter Pub) , past the Alvaston shops onto the new section of the ring road (for the bypass & access to the refuse tip) and onto the first 100 yards or so of Raynesway IS ALL 30mph Cops sit in the layby just in front of the 50mph sign on Raynesway with gatsos a plenty. GM R1150R