Not the Superbike litre bike test

I'm pretty tidy, but I can't be arsed to clean. So if I spill
something on the kitchen worktop, for example, I don't bother getting
a cloth and wiping it up - I just leave it, and the boys will sort it
out for me.

 

And you don't see an issue with that, yet had an issue with South Africa?

 

The differences are manifold.

 

How so? You are paying (indirectly I grant) for someone to clean up after
you, who is likely to be earning close to whatever
the minimum wage is where you are.

 

Because my cleaners don't live in corrugated irons shacks without
running water, for a start.

 

Fair point - bit of a generalisation, but fair point.

It's still demeaning IMO though cleaning up other people's crap, but
obviously is part of life.

As I've mentioned before, we never had a maid and I will never be
comfortable with the idea.
Employment is good - having a slave is not.

 

Why would a maid automatically be a slave? Assuming you paid a decent
wage, and asked a reasonable amount of work for it then that seems
perfectly sensible to me.

 

Not necessarily. I imagine your office has cleaners, for instance.

I employ a "woman who does" [1] who cleans my house. As far as I can
see she makes a decent living out it. Is there any real difference to
me employing her and, say, using a garage to fix my car?

[1] yes, yes, do what you will

 

I was referring more to the South African situation where people didn't
always get the best end of the deal.

Fair pay, decent conditions etc - great. It the exploitation I don't like,
and that's in any area, but keeping it to SA - maids on crap wages etc.

 

They aren't.

This is what is not always applied.

Note I'm not saying Blaney is doing this I'm saying that's what occured
in SA - it's improved due to better rights, a union and a few other things.

 

No, what *you* did was question the Blane's consitency, cos he
criticised SA, but has cleaning staff where he lives now.

And, we seem to come to a common agreement that paying someone to
clean for you per se is not exploitative, but employing people who are
taken advantage of due to their social/politcal situation is.

Good, glad we put that to bed.

 

Shall we talk about bikes?

 

The question then becomes what constitutes 'reasonable' and what is wage
slavery.

 

Spose we'd better.

Right - my GSX-R 1000 needs an MOT! Doesn't time fly, eh?

 

Indeed - my warranty's up in just over a month.

 

Indeed. I'm giving serious thought to becoming a butler.

 

I wondered about that once. There's butling school you can go to,
etc. I'd rather be a chauffeur, though; I did a bit a few summers
ago, and it was hilariously easy.