Not so mini review: GSXR600 SRAD vs Bandit 1200

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by ogden, Sep 4, 2004.

  1. ogden

    ogden Guest

    A mate needs somewhere to leave his bike for the weekend, and my garage
    fits the bill nicely, so he pops it round from work on Friday morning and
    leaves the keys with me. It's a 600, rather than the thou he also has at
    home, but it's a new toy to play with for a couple of days so it's the
    least I can do!

    Friday night and I need to pop out to get some ice. I opt to take the gixxer
    for a spin and see how it feels. Hopping on, I feel like I'm perched high
    above the lightest bike in the world and it feels nothing like the slotted-in
    feeling I used to have with my ZXR. I feel like I'm balancing on my arms,
    with my arse and my feet only there for show, and the rucksack on my back
    stops me lifting my head far enough to feel comfortable about the view ahead.
    Pootling off down the road and there's only one word to describe it: weird.
    Hitting the A404 and letting it rev through with the throttle wide open and I
    discover there's another word to describe it: gutless.

    So I pop into town, get some ice, and head home. Sitting at some lights, a
    spotty yoof pulls alongside me and says "nice bike, mate".
    "No it's not, it's bloody horrible," I reply. Lights change, I go home and
    park it back in the garage. If that was the first date, I'm really not sure
    about this new relationship.

    Saturday morning and the Sun's shining, my throttle-hand's itchy for some
    action and even her indoors tells me "you should take that bike out again,
    the weather's perfect for it." First impressions are overrated, I tell
    myself, and so I get kitted up (sans rucksack this time) and take the 600
    out for another run via George Whites in Slough.
    This time, when I hit the A404, I can hold my head high enough to see
    properly and I'm starting to get used to the riding position. The needle
    reaches 8k on the tacho and things start to perk up. 10k arrives and I'm
    definitely moving forward - the impression of speed is so much less with
    a fairing to take the wind away, rather than the wind trying to take my
    head away as is usually the case on the bandit.

    By the time I get to Slough I'm starting to make friends with every
    roundabout I see - they seem to suit the 600 nicely: slow but very very
    bendy. In the showroom I see a row of bronze-coloured SV thous at 4995.
    I'm tempted, but the colour's revolting. No wonder they have a row of them
    going cheap! I eye up a '99 7R for 3495, but anything new's going to have
    to wait for next year.

    Back on the road and I head for Cookham, Bourne End and some back roads to
    High Wycombe. Now the 600's starting to feel OK, just so long as I keep
    revving the tits off it. There's definitely power there as the front keeps
    popping up off bumps when I'm nailing it past cars, but it makes it in such
    an asthmatic way that its presence is deceptive. The handling goes from
    the sublime to the ridiculous as I simply look in the right direction and
    the bike seems to take care of the rest itself. One last blat down the 404
    and I'm back home, with tingling fingers, complaining wrists, but no smile
    as I walk in the door.

    A bag of beef space raiders later (lunch, in other words) and I head back
    out to take the bandit for a comparison ride. Hopping on it feels lighter
    than the gixxer (until it leans a little too far, when its extra pounds
    start showing like a fat bird in a bikini) but if the riding position on
    the 600 felt weird, the bandit just feels Wrong. What are these bars all
    about? Why are they so high - this is like riding a BMX!

    Out to Cookham again, and each time I open the throttle the open pipe barks
    like a rabid dobermann and cars just disappear behind me. The same route
    to High Wycombe and by the time I reach civilisation again, I'm throwing
    the bike round like a very heavy, very powerful supermoto and the world
    starts making sense again. A 130mph sprint back down the A404 with
    a TL thou in tow has me grinning like a retard on prozac. Off at the
    Bisham roundabout and up to Pinkneys Green, the lack of rebound damping
    at the rear of the bandit turns the bike into a space hopper, but for
    the rest of the ride everything's perfect. I park up at home, walk in the
    door and the smile's back where it belongs.

    On the Gixxer I felt closer to the road. On the Bandit I felt closer to God.

    What I really need is something that makes grunt like the bandit but
    handles like the gixxer.
    Anyone care to state the obvious?
     
    ogden, Sep 4, 2004
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  2. ogden

    Ginge Guest

    I'm not going to suggest what I think you're thinking...

    I'm going to suggest test riding a Z1000.
     
    Ginge, Sep 4, 2004
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  3. ogden

    dwb Guest

    Hmm - getting on mine today after the VFR and Hornet, I think the opposite.
    You're spot on with the aches and pains - but the handling and the noise...
    glad it's back. The noise in particular... neither Honda has it.
    Just to confirm, you do have the one with the big seat hump, with SRAD all
    over it, correct?

    What would be interesting is for you try the K1/2/3 or K4 (newest) ones to
    see how they compare. AIUI there was rather a change between the SRAD and
    the K1/2/3 from many directions, including the riding position, the handling
    and the engine- a much more competant motorcycle.

    Obviously a GSX-R1000 would give you the engine, but it has _exactly_ the
    same riding position. Possibly a Fazor 1000 would be more suited, or do what
    Hog did - put risers on it and lower the pegs :)
     
    dwb, Sep 4, 2004
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  4. ogden

    ogden Guest

    <looks at subject line>
    Well, you're welcome to have a go on my Bandit in return ;)
     
    ogden, Sep 4, 2004
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  5. ogden

    dwb Guest

    Having sat on Verdigris', I must say I wouldn't mind a go on one.

    However I rather like having a fairing :)
     
    dwb, Sep 4, 2004
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  6. ogden

    dwb Guest

    yeah yeah yeah, but you might have the newer model - as I said they are
    different.
    It's a bit like comparing the GSXR1100 to the GSXR1000, but not quite. :p
    *snort* Possibly, though considering I've *just* got mine back, it's going
    to be awhile before I willingly let anyone take it away :)
     
    dwb, Sep 4, 2004
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  7. ogden

    Ben Guest

    Add 400cc's to this...
    ....and you get the answer to this :)
     
    Ben, Sep 4, 2004
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  8. ogden

    Ben Blaney Guest

    I don't know what he is thinking. What is he thinking?
    Reasonable idea. What about the Tuono?
     
    Ben Blaney, Sep 4, 2004
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  9. ogden

    Lozzo Guest

    ogden says...
    Is this a euphmism for cunnilingus?
     
    Lozzo, Sep 4, 2004
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  10. ogden

    Ginge Guest

    I don't know now, but back then I think he was thinking gixxer thou.
    I like them, but round these parts dealers are a bit thin on the ground.
     
    Ginge, Sep 4, 2004
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  11. You should have called ahead.
    High Wycombe doesn't count as civilisation.
    Nice. Presumeably you prefer the latter feeling.
    Yeah, drop me a mail next time you're in town.
     
    Doesnotcompute, Sep 4, 2004
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  12. ogden

    ogden Guest

    At the time, yes. Now I'm thinking SB6 ;)
     
    ogden, Sep 5, 2004
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  13. :eek:)

    Si
     
    Mungo \two sheds\ Toadfoot, Sep 5, 2004
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  14. ogden

    Pip Guest

    I'm so glad that I spotted your apostrophe ...

    ... on the third reading.
     
    Pip, Sep 6, 2004
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  15. ogden

    ogden Guest

    I didn't spot it, but now I have, I can safely say it's grammatically
    incorrect. So there.
     
    ogden, Sep 6, 2004
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  16. ogden

    Pip Guest

    I can only agree with your assertion regarding the correcticity of the
    said apostrophe, Brother Ogden. I would ask that you look again at it
    however, with a view to granting the inclusion of the apostrophe on
    this occasion, as to omit it would create a truly dreadful mental
    image.
     
    Pip, Sep 6, 2004
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