Oh-oh, I spy a kenny-stooge. Have you actually read anything that's been written in this thread? Of course, if you sell something under false pretences you'll be liable for any problems that occur, but if you clearly state, and ensure that the customer agrees with, e.g. "sold for spares only, not a runner, engine falling apart" then an exploding engine clearly falls outside the realms of "fit for purpose" as required by the SoGA. Exactly what part of this is giving you your apparent difficulty of understanding? -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2 `\|/` `
That was an extreme example to make the point, but I think you knew that. The point is a dealer does not have to provide a warranty as Ken claims, they only have to provide full disclosure. If you then find the vehicle has a fault which wasn't described, you /may/ have a case for getting that fault rectified, depending on how serious it is, the general condition of the vehicle, how it was described, the requirements you gave to the dealer ('fit for purpose') etc etc. To get back to the original post that kicked this off, buying a bike with pitted stanchions is a perfectly reasonable thing to do, assuming you're happy it's priced accordingly, & you knew they were pitted when you bought the bike. -- Krusty. http://www.muddystuff.co.uk http://www.muddystuff.us Off-road classifieds '02 MV Senna '03 Tiger (FOYRNB) '96 Tiger '79 Fantic 250
Well, a quick perusal of your contributions to this thread has finally made up my mind. For a very brief while it looked like you might be on your way to something approaching reasonable behaviour. However, it was too good to last and you have clearly reverted to type - that type being "troll". Its very clear that you have no real knowledge of or interest in bikes. The only reason that you post is to provoke arguments. You hardly ever contribute anything of real interest or usefulness. On the other hand you put a lot of effort into trying to appear superior and trying to put other people down. Tragically for you it always rebounds and leaves you looking more and more inadequate - a sitution that is likely to result in a mental breakdown sooner or later (and may already be happening, judging by your recent track record). As I don't want to participate in your private misery and as you appear to be beyond help at the moment its killfile time for you. I would be VERY grateful if you could reciprocate by killfiling me. That will reduce the risk of any future interaction. <plonk!>
The message <CHgJf.46496$> It wouldn't be 'a nice little runner' then, would it? When I worked in a motorcycle shop we sold lots of crap old bikes, accurately described, and this was before the Sale of Goods Act came into being. If a bike had a known defect it was pointed out, which probably explained why our customers were drawn from Southend to East Lodon, and from Grays to Chelmsford... It must be the company you keep. Quite right too, but don't tar all dealers with the same brush.
So speaks the voice of experience...............seems this numpty knows about as much about buying and selling bikes, as he does about taking part in off road comp events!
This just doesnt work..............if the customer buys a bike from a trader and it blows up, he has recourse in law, even if the faulty engine has been noted on sales invoice...............looks like this information is falling on deaf (and dumb!) ears though! k
If you are able to set up an "autobot" then you know a lot more about computors than you do about bikes! k
You are just plain wrong. You couldn't be any wronger if you tried. Note to others - how does this sound as the text for the auto-reply? -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2 `\|/` `
Ken () gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : They have V5s. You stated unequivocally that the only way to sell a less- than-perfect vehicle was to sell it without a V5. They have V5s. Are you now going back on that, and saying that it is actually perfectly possible for the motor trade to sell a vehicle *with a V5* in less-than- perfect condition with no fear of comeback under SoGA? How about a fairly typical classic car dealer such as :- http://www.marchclassicmg.co.uk/cars_for_sale.htm Specifically - http://www.marchclassicmg.co.uk/pop12.htm described as "Good original running car for restoration. Very solid body, V5 available." or http://www.marchclassicmg.co.uk/pop18.htm described as "Running, in need of restoration. New wood body-bed, excellent chassis. Some new parts included. Original registration number on V5." They're not insurance write-offs (or even right-offs), nor are they "damaged". How do you square those with your previous stance on SoGA? Could it be that you're talking complete and utter unmitigated self- important bollocks? Again? And that SoGA requires nothing more than that the goods are fit for the purpose *for which they are sold*, and that the only real factor is that they have not been misdescribed?
The message <> Anyone who follows his own posts with '...lol' gets my <plonk>ing finger working innit.
Ace wrote Bad really, auto-replies ought to either ignore top posting or make reference to nothing else.
Your silly auto-reply thing aint going to work if my ID changes with every post..................guess you are going to have to disagree with that somehow though! k
Ace came up with the following;: Wronger than a wrong thing getting it awfully wrong on a very bad day? I'll get me coat ...
It would be nice if people specified *which* Ken they mean. Auto is not the only Ken that posts to the group. Ken Young
