No more cage!

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Damien, Dec 7, 2003.

  1. Damien

    Damien Guest

    Finally sold the bloody thing! Nothing wrong with it, just a waste of driveway space, but still glad to finally be rid
    of it. So now it's just me and the CBR, and all is good with the world again. :)

    Best part is that now I have the funds to not only pay off a couple of debts, but also spend a bit on the bike as well.
    And first on that list has _got_ to be new tyres! The front is well and truly rooted, and the rear is as hard as a rock
    and hardly appears to have worn at all - despite over 18,000km's since I've had it! Definitely time for a replacement.
    Now I just need to work out what I want to get...with 12 months of uni ahead of me, it needs to be hard enough to last
    the year at least, but still be sticky enough to be able to have some fun as well. Decisions, decisions!

    Damien
    GPX250 (stolen) -> CBR600
     
    Damien, Dec 7, 2003
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  2. Damien

    bob Guest

    Congrats on getting rid of the CAGE. With Coles Online delivering groceries
    its never been easier

    Just a quick question
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    What brand and type of tyre gives you 18,000km on the rear on a 600cc
    sportsbike? How well does it stick?

    The reason I ask is because my 03 R6 has done 6000 on my OEM Dunlop 207
    (Theses tyres suck, don't feel stable on them but I do like them in the wet
    which is strange) that came with the bike and the front and rear are already
    rooted and only have about another 800 kms left in them. I have to admit I
    have done 1.5 Track days (300km) on theses tyres which wouldn't have helped
    but the other 5700km was just riding to work on freeways.

    Has anyone Tried the Bridgestone Battleaxe BT012SS? How long they last?
    Most importantly how well do the grip in Dry/Wet




    driveway space, but still glad to finally be rid
    debts, but also spend a bit on the bike as well.
    truly rooted, and the rear is as hard as a rock
    I've had it! Definitely time for a replacement.
    ahead of me, it needs to be hard enough to last
     
    bob, Dec 7, 2003
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  3. Damien

    Damien Guest

    Online grocery deliveries? Who needs them! Even on the GPX, I never used the cage for groceries, and my record on the
    CBR was $135 worth - rack bag, exapandable tank bag (dri-rider city), and the rack is all you need (and the mirrors come
    in handy too, for the light stuff like bread & biscuits etc). :)
    It's a Macadam, and how well does it stick? IT DOESN'T!!!! I've learned to apply the front brake firmly, and then
    gradually introduce the rear brake - if I brake too hard, the back lets go. It's like a bloody rock. Even in the middle
    of the tyre, there's more than 2mm tread depth, and more towards the edges - on an 18K tyre, even a touring one, I'd be
    expecting more wear than that!

    Damien
    GPX250 (stolen) -> CBR600
     
    Damien, Dec 7, 2003
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  4. Damien

    Aido Guest

    Hey I.K.
    Don't you meen BT010? Not BT001. I've never heard of the BT001s. I have
    BT010s on the Hornet, Great tyre in the wet and i'm impressed with them in
    the dry.
    --

    Aido :)>
    2000 Honda Hornet S
    www.hondahornet.co.uk

    "Intact Kneeslider" wrote in message :
     
    Aido, Dec 7, 2003
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  5. You're doing well to get 6800 out of the 207 on an R6. I coaxed a
    little over 8000 from the original 207 on my BMW R1150R before it was
    so squared off even I felt embarrassed, so I fitted a 208, expecting
    similar kilometres. The 208 has tons and tons of grip, and is amazing
    in the wet, but will need to be replaced after just 4000km. Looks like
    it's Metzeler M1 Sportecs next time, as a mate got over 12,000 from
    the rear tyre on the same sort of bike as mine, with top road
    performance.

    Bumblebeeman1150
    Expensive fun, but shit, it's fun...
     
    Bumblebeeman1150, Dec 7, 2003
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  6. Damien

    Aido Guest

    I stand corrected I.K. I didn't know about the BT001s, I knew the BT012s
    were an evolution of the BT010s.
     
    Aido, Dec 7, 2003
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  7. Damien

    John Littler Guest

    BT020s - Ok as a back tyre on a heavyish bike. Bit grippier than the macadams.

    JL
     
    John Littler, Dec 7, 2003
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  8. Damien

    Damien Guest

    I think I'll probably go for something from either Bridgestone or Dunlop - I'm sure Michelin do make good tyres as well,
    but I'm a bit wary after my experiences with the Macadam!

    Damien
    GPX250 (stolen) -> CBR600
     
    Damien, Dec 7, 2003
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  9. Damien

    Nev.. Guest

    After 3500km the 208 on the 12R is at the point in it's life when it will earn
    a stern look from Mr Plod... and the first 1600km of that was "running in"
    usage. :/ I'm tossing up between a 220 to replace it or switch to a Pirelli
    Dragon GTS - which I just had put on the back of the XX and was quite
    impressed with during my 2500km jaunt through NSW this week on all sorts of
    wet/dry/sealed/unsealed roads.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Dec 7, 2003
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  10. Damien

    Damien Guest

    ah well, what can I say? :)

    Damien
    GPX250 (stolen) -> CBR600
     
    Damien, Dec 8, 2003
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  11. Damien

    BT Humble Guest

    Give it to me - I'll put it on Godzilla once his rear tyre wears
    out[1].

    Is it something like a 170/60 R17?


    BTH
    [1] Which could be a while, since I have yet to take the head off the
    engine and check on his shrapnel injuries...
     
    BT Humble, Dec 8, 2003
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  12. Damien

    Richard Fay Guest

    I'm sure Michelin do make good tyres as well,
    Give the Pilot Sports a go... They seem to not only grip well they also
    last well. A rare combination for a sports tyre.

    Don't damn michelin by the use of a Macadam (x90??) on your bike. The X90
    was fitted to my TRX850 in 1997 and they were a crap sports tyre then!!!

    Richard
     
    Richard Fay, Dec 8, 2003
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  13. Damien

    John Littler Guest

    Yeah I'll second that (there's one for the books, that's the second time we've
    agreed on something Richard !).

    I ditched a macadam with shitloads of tread after the 4th front end slide on the
    TRX - it was costing me too much in undies :)

    Pilots sports got me up to 15,000 K on the TRX. Quite sticky too. Very happy
    with them.

    JL
     
    John Littler, Dec 8, 2003
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  14. Damien

    Steve Strik Guest

    The Pilot Sports on the ZX-6R didn't last long at all. At 4,500 the
    rear was nearly down onto the indicators and that was just from
    straight line riding to work (5 corners in 20k's). At 6,000 it would
    no longer be legal (I'm replacing it next week :). I don't think the
    front is much better, although at 6,000 it is still not quite touching
    the indicators.

    Steve
     
    Steve Strik, Dec 9, 2003
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  15. I think we might just call shenanigans on Kawasaki over that one... you're
    talking about the stock tyres your bike came with, yeh? If so, chances are
    they're not regular Pilots, but some bullshit "tailored" version of them,
    made by Michelin "especially" for the ZX-6R-B. Most manufacturers do that
    these days, with the end result being that these specially-designed tyres
    usually wear out roughly twice as fast as regular ones.

    Case in point, the factory-stock D207F's my (carbed) ZX6 came with were
    ready for the bin inside of ~5500km, ditto the ones that came with my R1.

    By comparison, the D207F I had on the back of my FZR600 lasted for something
    like 8 months (broken speedo cable, so no idea of the kays I clocked up on
    it, but it was a fair bit), and the one on the back of my ZX-9R-B (big mama)
    took some 7500km+whatever the previous owner had put on it to get down to
    the cords.

    Moral of the story, find a twistier route to work...
     
    Intact Kneeslider, Dec 9, 2003
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  16. Damien

    sharkey Guest

    I hear it's built using the 'rolled belt' technique ... as you
    ride along, the tyre surface glues permanently to the asphalt
    and unrolls like sticky tape :)

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Dec 9, 2003
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  17. Damien

    Steve Strik Guest

    Yep, Still on the first set of tyres. I'm putting some Rennsports on
    next that my brother gave me (destroyed edges, but still basically new
    in the middle) so that shoudl get me another 1,000k or so before I
    actually need to spend money. I'm thinking of Diablos for the next
    set.


    I'd love to, but I live near Benalla and when they put the roads in I
    think they looked at a point on the horizon and went straight to it :(
     
    Steve Strik, Dec 9, 2003
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  18. Damien

    Damien Guest

    I went and paid a visit to one of the local shops (Cafe Racer, on the recommendation of Dr Shifty), and the guy there
    seemed to think the Pilot Road would be another option for me as well, as was one of Metzeler's offerings (I think he
    said it was the Z4?). Any thoughts on the matter? His prices are very good, and from what I observed whilst there, his
    service is even better, so I'll be going there for whatever I do end up getting - but as much I think I probably could
    trust his recommendations, it would be nice to know what others think as well, just to help ensure I make a good
    selection. Basically, I need a good all-weather, high-mileage tyre (around 15K would be desireable), that is still
    sticky enough to inspire confidence through the twisties on occasion. Don't care about how good it will be on a track
    day or anything like that, as I'll probably never get anywhere near one whilst at uni, and most riding will be commuting
    type stuff anyway. TIA!

    And now it is time to venture out in the rain to go pick up my new cappucino machine!

    Damien
    GPX250 (stolen) -> CBR600
     
    Damien, Dec 12, 2003
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  19. Damien

    conehead Guest

    Yuppie scum. Don't forget your $400 sunnies :)
     
    conehead, Dec 12, 2003
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  20. Damien

    RM Guest

    sssfunny...after years of $400 sunnies i now use a $6 solly's pair, they
    work well as sunnies, riding sunnies, protective glasses...and i just like
    them
    they've been dropped heaps and...well who cares what happens to $6 sunnies,
    but they are still there and unscratched and going strong
    when they die i'll probably miss them more than Ray Bans
     
    RM, Dec 12, 2003
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